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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:30 am
by jcraigie
I have several greenie tubes, I'll trade too. those er tubes are a bear to find around here.

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:22 am
by dusty
Don't cut 10ER tubes unless you know where to get an unlimited number of equally stout tubes of identical characteristics.

If you do, please let me know where.

I have thought about cutting down one of my Mark Vs but I can't bring myself to go as short as you have. I want to retain drill press capability with some reasonable capacity.

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:10 am
by JPG
dusty wrote:Don't cut 10ER tubes unless you know where to get an unlimited number of equally stout tubes of identical characteristics.

If you do, please let me know where.

I have thought about cutting down one of my Mark Vs but I can't bring myself to go as short as you have. I want to retain drill press capability with some reasonable capacity.
They cannot be very easily cut anyway(they are 'thick')! A pipe cutter struggles with the thinner M5/MV/M7/MVII ones.

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:57 pm
by chipmaster
dusty wrote:Don't cut 10ER tubes unless you know where to get an unlimited number of equally stout tubes of identical characteristics.

If you do, please let me know where.

I have thought about cutting down one of my Mark Vs but I can't bring myself to go as short as you have. I want to retain drill press capability with some reasonable capacity.
Okay Okay! Thanks for the warning, all. I will refurbish these tubes, cherish them, and preserved them for posterity in unadulterated form.

BTW there is a working ER here locally that's being sold for $250, negotiable, if anyone is interested. I'm chock full of projects at the moment.

v/r,

Rick

Shorty Shopsmith

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:38 pm
by billmayo
dusty wrote:Don't cut 10ER tubes unless you know where to get an unlimited number of equally stout tubes of identical characteristics.

If you do, please let me know where.

I have thought about cutting down one of my Mark Vs but I can't bring myself to go as short as you have. I want to retain drill press capability with some reasonable capacity.
I have been cutting 18" off the tubes to make a SHORTY Shopsmith. I have done a few dozen of the SHORTYs for customers without any negative feedback from them. Of course, I recommend always keeping one full length Shopsmith and use additional SHORTYs as an Power Station, Crafters Station, Power Stand and normal Shopsmith functions. I have been using a reversible 3/4 HP motor on most of the SHORTYs I sell. My dedicated drilling, tapping and milling Shopsmith uses the 10ER tubes cut 18" to prevent any tube flexing along with a cutdown Total Shop steel main table to prevent any table flexing.
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I have two extra Total Shop (TS) steel main tables, one with an side table extension that uses the 500 fence and table insert. The only problem is the miter bar groove is narrower than the Shopsmith miter bar. Also, I have two TS miter bar extension tables for these tables. I hope to mill a couple of the Shopsmith miter bars to fit these tables and my cutdown TS table once my shop reoriginazation is completed.

Since I had planned to sell these TS tables for their scrap weight, they are heavy, I would be happy sell them for the same scrap value to anyone wanting to play with them. Pick up would be the best bet as shipping cost would be most of the expense. I have pictures if anyone is interested.

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:42 pm
by JPG
Since you have not YET exposed yer '20', we have no way of pursuing it!!!

Add yer location to yer profile!;)

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:13 am
by chipmaster
I just remembered something--Part of my grand plan that had involved cutting my extra tubes was to build a lathe extension. Do the lathe extensions normally use shortened tubes, or do people just attach them full-length? How are the inserts generally attached?

v/r,

Rick

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:41 am
by JPG
chipmaster wrote:I just remembered something--Part of my grand plan that had involved cutting my extra tubes was to build a lathe extension. Do the lathe extensions normally use shortened tubes, or do people just attach them full-length? How are the inserts generally attached?

v/r,

Rick

I only know of one lathe extension and that was recently on e-bay. It uses solid pins that are inserted into both the extension tubes and the 10er tubes.

The extension also has a tie bar on one end and a tailstock casting on the other. It is a fairly recent adaptation.

P.S. I believe it was half the length (26"). At that I think support may eventually be a problem.

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:52 am
by reible
JPG40504 wrote:I only know of one lathe extension and that was recently on e-bay. It uses solid pins that are inserted into both the extension tubes and the 10er tubes.

The extension also has a tie bar on one end and a tailstock casting on the other. It is a fairly recent adaptation.

P.S. I believe it was half the length (26"). At that I think support may eventually be a problem.
I think I saw that, for like $200 and then there would be s/h... as I recall it did not sell. You also needed to supply your own second carriage. Your 10ER also has to have the thick tubes (not all 10ER's came that way).

Does this sound like the one you saw?

I have plans to make my own but it will be next summer sometime before that happens if at all. My approach is a bit different then what I have seen so I have no real idea how well it will work.

Ed

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:00 am
by JPG
reible wrote:I think I saw that, for like $200 and then there would be s/h... as I recall it did not sell. You also needed to supply your own second carriage. Your 10ER also has to have the thick tubes (not all 10ER's came that way).

Does this sound like the one you saw?

I have plans to make my own but it will be next summer sometime before that happens if at all. My approach is a bit different then what I have seen so I have no real idea how well it will work.

Ed
Sure sounds like it. He also posted in on skip's site.