Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:04 am
Hi Bob
He already had most likely 10 gauge wire installed which when he only needs 12 gauge 20 amp circuit, but it's a moot point. As I was writing my response earlier, I was temped to just delete it as there are a number of things we simple assumed and wouldn't know until actually having a look. I've seen a lot of so-called professional electrical work which somehow passed inspection.
One time I was doing a favor for a person in Oklahoma City. They wanted an outlet added. Her place had the old 2-prong sockets and no place for the safety ground wire. Her father lived in a brand new place and needed a light in the master bedroom closet. In his home, he had 3 prong outlets, but when I checked the outlets with my outlet checker, some of the neutrals & hot wires were reversed and not a single safety ground wire was connected- even though the ground wires wires were there in the outlet box and connected in the loadcenter/circuit breaker panel.
How these places pass inspection is beyond me. How much longer does it take to connect a ground wire to an outlet? It was done by someone who didn't care. 6 months ago, I had my condo in Florida wired up for a dryer. Sears Delivery is responsible for putting the pigtail wire on the dryer when they deliver it. In my case it was the driver. The back of the dryer has a wiring block that clearly states what color goes where. The driver put the black wire on the neutral (white) position and I'm not sure where he hook the other 3 wires. When they plugged the dryer in, it almost blew the circuit breaker panel off the wall...after it shorted/welded the 30 amp breaker closed and finally the 100 amp main finally tripped.
I was up in NJ, buy my mother & her friends were there along with a guy who was a retired electrician for Ford Motors years ago. They were all interested in seeing the new dryer that apparently does everything. He took pictures of all of it and sent it to me. I contacted the Sears delivery manager who played dumb and knew nothing of what his guys had done & then denied to me that anything happened. When I told him I had half a dozen witnesses and pictures, his attitude immediately changed.
I had to call an electrician in order to disconnect the dryer which was still plugged in and also remove the fried 30-amp beaker so the main breaker could be turned back on and service restored to the condo as I had tenant renting at the time. As a result of the pictures, their insurance company simply paid my electrician's bill as my circuit breaker box needed to be replaced as one of the buss bars was completely carbonized and welded to where the old 30-amp breaker was connected.
I tried to explain that someone could of been killed, but not one person acknowledged they and simply paid over $1,200 to replace the panel and deliver another top-of-the-line dryer. The same electrician called me a couple weeks later and said he had another job like mine where the Sears Delivery contractor put the wires on the wrong terminals. Amazing- isn't it?
He already had most likely 10 gauge wire installed which when he only needs 12 gauge 20 amp circuit, but it's a moot point. As I was writing my response earlier, I was temped to just delete it as there are a number of things we simple assumed and wouldn't know until actually having a look. I've seen a lot of so-called professional electrical work which somehow passed inspection.
One time I was doing a favor for a person in Oklahoma City. They wanted an outlet added. Her place had the old 2-prong sockets and no place for the safety ground wire. Her father lived in a brand new place and needed a light in the master bedroom closet. In his home, he had 3 prong outlets, but when I checked the outlets with my outlet checker, some of the neutrals & hot wires were reversed and not a single safety ground wire was connected- even though the ground wires wires were there in the outlet box and connected in the loadcenter/circuit breaker panel.
How these places pass inspection is beyond me. How much longer does it take to connect a ground wire to an outlet? It was done by someone who didn't care. 6 months ago, I had my condo in Florida wired up for a dryer. Sears Delivery is responsible for putting the pigtail wire on the dryer when they deliver it. In my case it was the driver. The back of the dryer has a wiring block that clearly states what color goes where. The driver put the black wire on the neutral (white) position and I'm not sure where he hook the other 3 wires. When they plugged the dryer in, it almost blew the circuit breaker panel off the wall...after it shorted/welded the 30 amp breaker closed and finally the 100 amp main finally tripped.
I was up in NJ, buy my mother & her friends were there along with a guy who was a retired electrician for Ford Motors years ago. They were all interested in seeing the new dryer that apparently does everything. He took pictures of all of it and sent it to me. I contacted the Sears delivery manager who played dumb and knew nothing of what his guys had done & then denied to me that anything happened. When I told him I had half a dozen witnesses and pictures, his attitude immediately changed.
I had to call an electrician in order to disconnect the dryer which was still plugged in and also remove the fried 30-amp beaker so the main breaker could be turned back on and service restored to the condo as I had tenant renting at the time. As a result of the pictures, their insurance company simply paid my electrician's bill as my circuit breaker box needed to be replaced as one of the buss bars was completely carbonized and welded to where the old 30-amp breaker was connected.
I tried to explain that someone could of been killed, but not one person acknowledged they and simply paid over $1,200 to replace the panel and deliver another top-of-the-line dryer. The same electrician called me a couple weeks later and said he had another job like mine where the Sears Delivery contractor put the wires on the wrong terminals. Amazing- isn't it?