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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:15 am
by mickyd
edward wrote:I had hoped to give you guys a good report about my completed rebuilt headstock. Alas. Rocky Mountain Supply supplied me with yet another bearing of the wrong size. This one was too big (the other was too small). I'm wondering now if I should look elsewhere. I have a Gilmer drive with a single bearing quill. Are these weird bearings?
see this post from bucksaw

http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showpos ... stcount=10


OR, this one from Bill Mayo

http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showpos ... stcount=16

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:52 am
by bucksaw

The single bearing quill shaft takes a special 6202 bearing. The industry number is a 6202 ZZ C1 5/8. The main difference is that it needs to fit a 5/8" shaft. The Fafnir number is 202KDD5. The 5 is important because it identifies the 5/8" shaft size. I believe the C1 means the bearing is built to highest tolerance standards. A "standard" bearing is a C3 I believe. Bill could probably correct me if I'm wrong about this.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:07 am
by bucksaw
Speaking of 3/4 HP motors. I just finished installing new bearings in the motor for a Greenie. The motor has an external relay and capacitor. The relay is making a pretty loud clicking now while the motor is running and I'm thinking it needs to be replaced. Motor part number is: 5KC93NU 202 and the relay number is 3ARR1 AE73. Anyone know where I could find a replacement? I don't want to open up the relay until I know I might have some way to replace it if I happen to destroy it in the process. I'll take a picture of the motor tonight and post it.

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:55 pm
by edward
I think remember Bill saying I can order bearings through him. Is that right? Called my local supply; they only have C3 and I'd like to get C1 since it's a single bearing quill.

You know, with this C1 bearing, and a good clutch, the Gilmer drive is at least as good as the Poly-V, if not better. :)

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:49 pm
by bucksaw
Yes, I believe Bill stocks the bearings. You can go to his web site or send him a private message.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:22 pm
by JPG
bucksaw wrote:Speaking of 3/4 HP motors. I just finished installing new bearings in the motor for a Greenie. The motor has an external relay and capacitor. The relay is making a pretty loud clicking now while the motor is running and I'm thinking it needs to be replaced. Motor part number is: 5KC93NU 202 and the relay number is 3ARR1 AE73. Anyone know where I could find a replacement? I don't want to open up the relay until I know I might have some way to replace it if I happen to destroy it in the process. I'll take a picure of the motor tonight and post it.
It is clicking WHILE it is RUNNING or clicks when it starts up(once).
If repeatative, do lights dim/brighten when this 'clicking' takes place? Does motor seem to 'speed' up and slow down between 'clicks'?
Is the capacitor the CORRECT size(MFD)?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:41 pm
by bucksaw
JPG40504 wrote:It is clicking WHILE it is RUNNING or clicks when it starts up(once).
If repeatative, do lights dim/brighten when this 'clicking' takes place? Does motor seem to 'speed' up and slow down between 'clicks'?
Is the capacitor the CORRECT size(MFD)?
The clicking noise is while it is running. Motor is out of the headstock. Relay and Capacitor are original. It seems like there is a vibration coming from the relay also. Motor speed seems constant. No change it lights (20amp circuit and the motor is the only thing running on the circuit).

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:46 pm
by mickyd
Edward,

I had to mention that your thread has had 2081 views and over 100 replies. Can't you just feel the love from these folks in this forum? This IS an outstanding site. I really love it.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:57 pm
by JPG
bucksaw wrote:The clicking noise is while it is running. Motor is out of the headstock. Relay and Capacitor are original. It seems like there is a vibration coming from the relay also. Motor speed seems constant. No change it lights (20amp circuit and the motor is the only thing running on the circuit).
I would not be concerned if the relay 'hums'. Are you sure of the source of the 'clicking'?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:59 pm
by JPG
bucksaw wrote:The clicking noise is while it is running. Motor is out of the headstock. Relay and Capacitor are original. It seems like there is a vibration coming from the relay also. Motor speed seems constant. No change it lights (20amp circuit and the motor is the only thing running on the circuit).
I would not be concerned if the relay 'hums'. Are you sure of the source of the 'clicking'? How often does it 'click'?