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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:42 pm
by JPG
johnmgonser wrote:I can't believe I am looking at a political thread on this woodworking forum. Oh, well. If the present bureaucrats have their say, we will have no finishes we can use, no material from any forest, no sawdust or shavings to pollute the environment, and no noise from such horrible devices as table saws and the like. But all that doesn't matter because we won't have available electrical energy with no nuclear plants, no more oil for oil-fired plants, no hydroelectrical facilities, and certainly no coal-fired electrical generators.

Back to hand tools it is.


What can be more appropriate than a political thread on a 'community' forum.;)

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:16 pm
by db5
pennview wrote:Why do you guys refer to him as "Bob" Beckel, it's really "Blob" :D
You misspelled BOob

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:17 pm
by db5
dusty wrote:Naughty, Naughty. Be Nice. Yes, he is over weight but so am I.:(
You do so well at posting pictures. Could we have one of you, please?

I said Please.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:31 pm
by fredsheldon
Thing are looking up. The stock market is higher than ever before and unemployment is below the magic number of 8%. And Dusty can afford to get his RV roadworthy so he can take his trip :D Life is good.

Promises,promises

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:20 am
by creekrunner
A chicken in every pot and a shopsmith in every garage!

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:23 am
by JPG
db5 wrote:You do so well at posting pictures. Could we have one of you, please?

I said Please.
Go check out his bandsaw video on youtube.:D

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:51 am
by pennview
One month it's people dropping out of the work force. The next it's those 800,000 part-time jobs that were created in September. Statistics sure do wonders for jobless numbers.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:39 am
by dusty
If it helps put people to work, even for a short time, it helps to pay the bills. The question is, how long can the country survive based on part time jobs.

We need to be developing the country for the long haul. This is done with significant jobs in education, construction, science, medicine, manufacturing, etc. Seasonal jobs, hospitality jobs and low paying part time jobs are not foundation jobs upon which to build the economy.

The jobs reports are looking good but what are they reporting. All the media reports is numbers. Numbers don't lie but statisticians do. I can't tell what the numbers all mean.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:27 am
by pennview
The number of real jobs last month was 114,000, which isn't enough to keep up with population growth in this country. But, like you said, Dusty, some work is better than no work.

Another sector of the economy that needs expansion is energy, not just this current emphasis on so-called green energy. Around my part of the country, there are lots of yard signs up saying: "stop the war on coal, fire Obama." And, there's plenty of oil off the coasts and in Alaska just waiting to be tapped, but instead we've got $4.00 gas prices or higher if you're in California. And, there's more oil bound up in shale out in the Rockies than in Saudi Arabia if we'd just "invest" in figuring out how to extract the stuff. Instead, taxpayers are funding failing solar energy manufacturing.

Is three tenths of one percent good?

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:47 am
by dusty
Three tenths of one percent. That is what happened to the jobs number. It dropped from 8.1% to 7.8%. Three tenths of one percent.

That's .003 right.

When I am adjusting the main table for squareness to the blade, .003 is pretty darn good.

But we are not talking about squaring the table. We are talking about the number of people who now have no need to apply for "unemployment compensation". In this context, I don't think that is such a good number. Yes, it is better than it was but is it really good? I don't think so.