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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:42 pm
by SDSSmith
backhertz wrote:Was just chastising myself on another thread about my 16,000 RPM comment on the idler shaft. I have worked with upper level math most of my working career. So it is not often I make blatant errors.

I just took my calculator out and did the math again and came up with 16,000 RPM on the idler shaft. That is 'assuming' a 1.6: 1 ratio between the idler shaft and the quill assy when spinning at 10,000 RPM.

On the Mark V, the ratio is 1.6: 1 and I assume it is the same on the PowerPro. I read the speed range of the jointer is 3,900 - 6,200 rpm and I know the quill on the Mark V spins at only 5,200 RPM. Those are facts.

So I'm wondering if a PowerPro idler shaft to the drive sleeve assembly is 1.6:1. The PowerPro produces 10,000 RPM quill speed. I wish I had some type of tachometer to measure the idler shaft speed when the quill is spinning at 10,000 RPM.

I just turned on my PowerPro and on the chart it has two speed settings for the jointer: 3,450 & 3,500 RPM. Well those must be quill speeds as the jointer speed range is 3,900 to 6,200 RPM. Assuming a 1.6: 1 ratio, that tells me, I think, the idler shaft is spinning at 5,520-5,600 RPM. Those numbers look good.

Now when the quill is spinning at 10,000 RPM- <aka warp speed>, I am wondering what the idler shaft is turning at. It has to be faster than 10,000 RPM because of the 1.6:1 ratio.

Gentlemen, I believe my 16,000 RPM figure is in fact correct. It has to be. This is good news & I can go back to my meds…:D But I would recommend people use the new plastic shaft guard (521889) to keep anything from hitting the shafts sticking out of the belt cover. They cost only $4 unless you go with a new belt cover that has two threaded holes for the shaft guard screws. It will also protect the idler shaft on a new-design idler shaft assy from being knocked into the headstock.

Please check my figures.
You are correct, Tony. With the PowerPro set to 10000 rpm, the idler shaft does turn around 16000 rpm. I have measured it with my cheapo tachometer. Go ahead and take that pill.;)

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:23 pm
by JPG
Backhertz: I had no 'problem' with the 16,000 rpm, but did question the 8320 rpm!;)

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:18 am
by backhertz
The 8,320 is with a Mark V which the idler shaft spins when the quill is turning at 5,200 RPM. Multiply by 1.6= 8,320.

I honestly thought I had confused my numbers. Memory must need some lube…

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:27 am
by JPG
backhertz wrote:The 8,320 is with a Mark V which the idler shaft spins when the quill is turning at 5,200 RPM. Multiply by 1.6= 8,320.

I honestly thought I had confused my numbers. Memory must need some lube…
Ah so!:):):)

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:08 am
by backhertz
I think I wrote about this in one of the the areas. But I'm wondering if there could be use of 16,000 RPM for a flex shaft or something.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:07 am
by JPG
backhertz wrote:I think I wrote about this in one of the the areas. But I'm wondering if there could be use of 16,000 RPM for a flex shaft or something.
Maybe in a dental office for elephants!:D

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:14 am
by backhertz