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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 11:23 am
by reible
Hi again,

Since I had my 10ER note book out I checked the speed changer settings and the 6" dado should be at H3 same as general sawing.

Ed

paulsgreenbarn wrote:Well I took it for a test drive today.I needed some 3/4" dadoes for this Hutch I'm working on so set it up.First lesson: you can't just hog out 3/4" X3/8"deep dado in one pass.Surprise right?Lesson #2: The previous owner had it wire for 220 for a reason.The 110 setup shut down during the project due to too much heat.Lesson #3: Slow down! Turned the speedchanger back to #3 and it allowed the motor to operate alot cooler without shutdown.I proceded to make two 3/16" passes on each piece and things worked better.Lesson #4: Remember you're working with 50 yr.old technology.These were designed to be mor efficient than doing it by hand.They aren't today's woodworking machines by any means.
all in all ,lots of fun.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 11:35 am
by paulsgreenbarn
thanks Ed.I kind fo figured on the 1950 era.Kind of cool that both have the ER suffix in front of the number.that made me think maybe they were from the 40's.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 12:32 pm
by JPG
paulsgreenbarn wrote:thanks Ed.I kind fo figured on the 1950 era.Kind of cool that both have the ER suffix in front of the number.that made me think maybe they were from the 40's.
The '40's' Es have no ER prefix.]artwork preceding the actual SN stamp[/U].(1947).

At the transition from E to ER, the scheme was a hodge podge of different methods as well as different manufacturing locations.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 3:35 pm
by paulsgreenbarn
Ok,I thought the ER prefix was from the earlier machines.No big deal,good to know.thanks

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 12:29 am
by skou
JPG40504 wrote:The '40's' Es have no ER prefix.]artwork preceding the actual SN stamp[/U].(1947).

At the transition from E to ER, the scheme was a hodge podge of different methods as well as different manufacturing locations.
I've seen quite a few different markings. My first had a red E at about the 7 o'clock position, "model 10 E" and in the bare spot for the serial number it had R24996. The headstock in my front room has at 7:00, "model," and at 5:00, "10ER." The serial number is above where it is in earlier years, in an oval (ok, racetrack shaped) spot below the Shopsmith logo 98397, no letters. The earlier models used the same bare spot where the lower rivet went through.

steve

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 2:49 am
by skou
paulsgreenbarn wrote:Ok,I thought the ER prefix was from the earlier machines.No big deal,good to know.thanks
Paul, the ER prefix stood for Model E, Revised.

steve

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:05 am
by skou
Oh, the 2 headstocks I have in storage, in the 7:00 position," Model ER Serial no," In the unpainted spot (where the rivet is) is the serial number beginning with ER. In the 5:00 position, "Patent applied for." Except for the actual serial number, the rest was printed in red, ahead of time. Even the ER in the actual serial number. (I would have posted the serial numbers, but with bad light, and a rivet over the numbers...)

Funny, no "10."

I'm guessing, but all of my headstocks MAY be San Francisco, ( Hayward or Berkeley.) I'm pretty sure nothing was manufactured in Menlo Park, California, even though all the E-ER literature came from there, and the Chambers brothers, not to mention Hans and R.J DeCristoforo lived close by in Los Altos Hills.

Hey, I grew up in Sunnyvale, and was VERY familiar with Palo Alto, Menlo Park, and Los Altos, as well as Los Altos Hills.

Even though I haven't been there in 20 years.

steve

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:12 am
by skou
OK, the ACTUAL serial numbers are stamped into the aluminum faceplate. Some of them have a stamped in letter (or 2) but most of them are just hammer-stenciled numbers.

Yes, VERY confusing.

steve