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JPG40504 wrote: Fuel oil to me smells a lot like diesel fuel.

The major difference between the two is the tax applied.
Fuel oil will work well in your diesel engines. Shhh.... :

'BO' is so concerned re atmospheric CO2, but I am more concerned about ground H2O.

Fracking NG is cheap, but at what cost to future source for drinking etc.?

Why all the concern re 'stream' pollution from coal mining and not much noise re fracking 'waste'?


I think if 'we' still were using and depending on coal like we used to(instead of sending dirty processes 'over there') that all this furor would be much less.

Now as for the current peach 'recall', any one 'looked into the cause'?

Two peaches tested in Australia tested positive for listeria colonies, but at a measure of '10' per whatever. The threshold in Australia is 100, so the shipment was released for consumption.

The packers were informed of the positive results.

Since the FDA has a threshold of 0(zero) the packers did some testing of their own.

They discovered colonies on three peaches and one necterine at a level similar to the Australian tests.

So since the FDA has 'zero tolerance' almost two weeks of production was 'recalled'. No reimbursement to consumers, just instructions to dispose of them!:( Gad what a waste of fruit!

All this over 6 pieces of fruit.

And chicken little media is making a huge planet out of this anthill.

Why not 'advise' those 'at risk' to just not eat peaches for a month or so.

Those 'at risk' are those pregnant or unborn, those with reduced immume system, and young children.

Us 'normal' folks might feel like the flu season is early if we get 'infected'.

Oh and the packer lost another week of so of production 'sanitizing' the facility and other preventative measures.

Then there is the PR hit with this.

I commend the packer management for their conscience in this but do think it was more from concern of the FDA than consumer protection.

I think them down under'ers got it right!;)

'Only in "America" as in US of '!:eek:

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JPG,
Fracturing sands to release gas and/or oil has been employed since the '50s.
Where I grew up in S. IL, the fracturing took place approx. 2K' deep. Our drinking water was above that. To my knowledge, the aquifers have not been negatively effected.

Gene Howe wrote:JPG,
Fracturing sands to release gas and/or oil has been employed since the '50s.
Where I grew up in S. IL, the fracturing took place approx. 2K' deep. Our drinking water was above that. To my knowledge, the aquifers have not been negatively effected.

I hope that is correct, then my concern is diminished.

I thought rocks were being fractured.

AIUI, disposal of the waste(contaminated water) is an ongoing/increasing problem(sorta like nuclear power plants, but no half life concerns).

A lot of this going on in OH. Hope it doesn't run down here to the other side of the OH river!:D

I'm not sure of anywhere else. In IL it was Devonian sands....probably nearly as hard as rock.
IIRC, the oil and gas bearing strata is mostly sedimentary "rock".
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JPG40504 wrote:I hope that is correct, then my concern is diminished.

I thought rocks were being fractured.

AIUI, disposal of the waste(contaminated water) is an ongoing/increasing problem(sorta like nuclear power plants, but no half life concerns).

A lot of this going on in OH. Hope it doesn't run down here to the other side of the OH river!:D