Does Everyone Know

swampgator · Post by **swampgator** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:41 pm

Not a social media participant. Too much info can be tracked and is tracked. Too many harvesters there spending time to take advantage of me. Try looking for your name on the internet. Folks have information about you that is somewhat correct and a bunch of stuff that is not even close. That information is then fed into your credit report. On one site, they had me living in San Francisco, Miami, Coleman, GA and a couple other places I have never been in my life. And,I get calls for those folks they think I am related to. Where do they get this stuff? Someone else using my name and another address and other relatives on social media. And, if this site goes that way, will no longer be here. Too old to get involved in such stuff. Sorry for my rant!

ryanbp01 · Post by **ryanbp01** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:13 pm

I don't have Facebook due to my occupation (teacher). I must have passed up on a lot of "free" stuff that is offered if I would set up a Facebook account in order to like their offerings. I look at it this way: if I "like" your merchandise, I will make a purchase and it I don't, I won't.

BPR

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:40 pm

ryanbp01 wrote:I don't have Facebook due to my occupation (teacher). I must have passed up on a lot of "free" stuff that is offered if I would set up a Facebook account in order to like their offerings. I look at it this way: if I "like" your merchandise, I will make a purchase and it I don't, I won't.

BPR

Why do some folks 'need' to be told somebody else likes a product.

Maybe it is Consumers Report fault!:D

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:00 am

JPG40504 wrote:Why do some folks 'need' to be told somebody else likes a product.

Maybe it is Consumers Report fault!:D

I'm sure you know this but by liking something you are actually advertising the product. They figure you have friends with similar interests so they are getting free advertising to a specific target group with little or no cost to themselves. In other words in our zeal to tell others we are doing their jobs so they can charge us more and give us less. For them it is win win win. For us it are you really that ....?

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:32 pm

Ed in Tampa wrote:I'm sure you know this but by liking something you are actually advertising the product. They figure you have friends with similar interests so they are getting free advertising to a specific target group with little or no cost to themselves. In other words in our zeal to tell others we are doing their jobs so they can charge us more and give us less. For them it is win win win. For us it are you really that ....?

SO!

If you don't communicate that to them (the marketeers) by using Facebook, you will do it some other way.

The sellers' most reliable way is to determine how many of their items have been sold and delivered.

Do not think for one minute that Shopsmith does not know how many Forum members own PowerPro Headstocks or how many of them have purchased Mark 7s.

I'd not be surprised if they knew which of us buy saw blades, or Help Kits, or Johnson's Paste Wax or whatever.

In this new technological era, WE ARE AN OPEN BOOK.

algale · Post by **algale** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:47 pm

dusty wrote:SO!

If you don't communicate that to them (the marketeers) by using Facebook, you will do it some other way.

The sellers' most reliable way is to determine how many of their items have been sold and delivered.

Do not think for one minute that Shopsmith does not know how many Forum members own PowerPro Headstocks or how many of them have purchased Mark 7s.

I'd not be surprised if they knew which of us buy saw blades, or Help Kits, or Johnson's Paste Wax or whatever.

In this new technological era, WE ARE AN OPEN BOOK.

In the days when everything was mom and pop stores don't you think that mom and pop not only knew you personally but knew what you bought so they could keep track?

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:04 pm

algale wrote:In the days when everything was mom and pop stores don't you think that mom and pop not only knew you personally but knew what you bought so they could keep track?

Oh yes, absolutely. I have no disagreement there.

Today, however, every CEO in the world gets briefed in one way or another about what I buy or don't buy, do for entertainment, or whatever.

Technology makes that possible. In the days of mom and pop, the information was not so wide spread. The only difference.

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:51 pm

dusty wrote:SO!

If you don't communicate that to them (the marketeers) by using Facebook, you will do it some other way.

The sellers' most reliable way is to determine how many of their items have been sold and delivered.

Do not think for one minute that Shopsmith does not know how many Forum members own PowerPro Headstocks or how many of them have purchased Mark 7s.

I'd not be surprised if they knew which of us buy saw blades, or Help Kits, or Johnson's Paste Wax or whatever.

In this new technological era, WE ARE AN OPEN BOOK.

My concern is not what they know about my buying habits it is their deceptive way to get people to advertise by asking them to "like" them on their facebook. Many people don't realize this is a way to have targeted advertisement done for them by the people that "like" them.

I once thought Shopsmith knew what each of us bought but I don't think so anymore. Back in the 80's Shopsmith knew enough about me that they would help my wife pick out presents for Christmas and my birthdays. However I think that data base either wasn't more than Customer Service Reps personal knowledge or it got lost somewhere.

Any good merchant that wants repeat business learns his customers and their buying habits. However most of them have been replaced by Walmarts that only track how many cases sold. And usually that is corporate knowledge and actual store manager just does what corporate tells him.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:59 pm

Ed in Tampa wrote:My concern is not what they know about my buying habits it is their deceptive way to get people to advertise by asking them to "like" them on their facebook. Many people don't realize this is a way to have targeted advertisement done for them by the people that "like" them.

I once thought Shopsmith knew what each of us bought but I don't think so anymore. Back in the 80's Shopsmith knew enough about me that they would help my wife pick out presents for Christmas and my birthdays. However I think that data base either wasn't more than Customer Service Reps personal knowledge or it got lost somewhere.

Any good merchant that wants repeat business learns his customers and their buying habits. However most of them have been replaced by Walmarts that only track how many cases sold. And usually that is corporate knowledge and actual store manager just does what corporate tells him.

They can still produce a record of what I have purchased over the years. As long as they have that data base, they can query it to determine a whole lot of things. They may not use it but the data is there.

Shopsmith.com/Woodworking/Personal Home Page...Click Here for Order Status and History

BTW...if you haven't been here in awhile you might want to browse around. Admin has obviously been working very hard on this site and there are several very worthwhile changes that have been made.

algale · Post by **algale** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:29 pm

dusty wrote:Oh yes, absolutely. I have no disagreement there.

Today, however, every CEO in the world gets briefed in one way or another about what I buy or don't buy, do for entertainment, or whatever.

Technology makes that possible. In the days of mom and pop, the information was not so wide spread. The only difference.

Yes but while the information is more widespread, it is also more anonymous because it is unlikely that anyone who comes across the info actually knows or cares who you are.