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Capertrj, I am sure at this point you are overwhelmed with opinions, the greenie for 100 is a bargain, the other one I read the post, you can trust, JPG, John B and most of the others here, we are all here for your best interest. If it is complete as he sez 350 is not a bad price, remember on CL unless they same price is firm, all is negotiable, I take about 10% off of asking price, depending on how often the similar item shows up on CL.
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Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
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Capertrj wrote:Just called. I asked if it included the above items. Here is the reply:

"No this is a stock mark v it has the rip fence, over sized table, saw blade arbor, and jointer. There is no floating table legs, lathe parts, drill chuck or sanding disk."
He is mistaken. He may not have those items, but they are stock items with a base model Mark V.

Edit: The legs come with the 510 package.
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Capertrj wrote:Jsburger, I didn't mean to go against anything you said. Just my brief observations from the call. You're probably right. If I happen to get this unit would these parts be what I need to get it functional for all five jobs?

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ackage.htm. - 201.23
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/dr_chuck.htm. - 40.49
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... rgauge.htm - 104.14
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ingkit.htm - 143.24

Most of these are the packages/bundles. Would this give me the 5 tools plus the included jointer to make 6. Is there anything for horizontal boring?
Also:

Tail stock
Tool rest
Upper/lower saw guards
(And if wanting to have full 510 capabilities: 2 floating tables, 2 extension legs, and 4 connecting tubes).
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ERLover wrote:Capertrj, I am sure at this point you are overwhelmed with opinions, the greenie for 100 is a bargain, the other one I read the post, you can trust, JPG, John B and most of the others here, we are all here for your best interest. If it is complete as he sez 350 is not a bad price, remember on CL unless they same price is firm, all is negotiable, I take about 10% off of asking price, depending on how often the similar item shows up on CL.
Overwhelmed. Very much haha. I've pretty much decided I want a SS for my space. For my 16x10 area with all the options, you can't beat a SS. Just have to find the right one. I wouldn't know where to start on fixing the greenie.
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algale wrote:
Capertrj wrote:Jsburger, I didn't mean to go against anything you said. Just my brief observations from the call. You're probably right. If I happen to get this unit would these parts be what I need to get it functional for all five jobs?

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ackage.htm. - 201.23
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/dr_chuck.htm. - 40.49
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... rgauge.htm - 104.14
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ingkit.htm - 143.24

Most of these are the packages/bundles. Would this give me the 5 tools plus the included jointer to make 6. Is there anything for horizontal boring?
Also:

Tail stock
Tool rest
Upper/lower saw guards
(And if wanting to have full 510 capabilities: 2 floating tables, 2 extension legs, and 4 connecting tubes).
With all this I might need to keep looking. It will be over 1000 after everything.
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I wouldn't know where to start on fixing the greenie.
All is here videos, pics JPG, they are simple, check out the Maintenance site
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
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Capertrj wrote:Jsburger, I didn't mean to go against anything you said. Just my brief observations from the call. You're probably right. If I happen to get this unit would these parts be what I need to get it functional for all five jobs?

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ackage.htm. - 201.23
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/dr_chuck.htm. - 40.49
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... rgauge.htm - 104.14
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ingkit.htm - 143.24

Most of these are the packages/bundles. Would this give me the 5 tools plus the included jointer to make 6. Is there anything for horizontal boring?
All of those come with a STANDARD SS plus a Saw blade and arbor. Nothing else is needed for horizontal boring except the drill chuck that he doesn't have.

So none of the 5 functions of the MK V (5 functions) will work with that machine.

However, with the jointer it is not a bad price. All of the accessories are available on eBay.

I would pass and bide my time. Something much better will come along.
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ERLover wrote:I wouldn't know where to start on fixing the greenie.
All is here videos, pics JPG, they are simple, check out the Maintenance site
Fixing a Greenie is not much more complicated the a 10ER. The drive is the same a s the 10ER speed changer. The speed control dial is the only real difference and it is pretty simple.
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My first one was a greenie asking 250, but the motor ran but not the spindles, I knew nothing, but had looked at the maintenance site and knew it was the Gilmer belt was broken, now I am mechanically inclined, got a new belt from SS came with instructions, looked at the videos here and when I had a question, the people here came through here. You can do this, as far as the greenie goes as long as the motor runs, be tuff and use it as a bargaining chip.
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
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jsburger wrote:
ERLover wrote:I wouldn't know where to start on fixing the greenie.
All is here videos, pics JPG, they are simple, check out the Maintenance site
Fixing a Greenie is not much more complicated the a 10ER. The drive is the same a s the 10ER speed changer. The speed control dial is the only real difference and it is pretty simple.
Similar design principles, yes. "The same", no way. Walnuts and coconuts. ;)
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