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JPG wrote:

Skizzity wrote:I did get a call back on Wednesday. The engineer was also puzzled by the fin on the heat sink. I was told everything should be "ok". Don't route for more than 30 minutes before letting it cool. Ok.
I wanted to finish my drawer fronts this morning. 3/8" roundover. I was keeping track of the time and made it to 14 minutes before I got the warning. Getting frustrated...
I was also wondering about the Speed increaser for under-table routing. Would it work on a PowerPro?

I take it you do not have a "7".

Keep the PP speed down to saw/joint speed(max for the speed increaser). The temptation to go above that is no doubt tempting.

I do have a 7.

Skizzity wrote:

JPG wrote:

Skizzity wrote:I did get a call back on Wednesday. The engineer was also puzzled by the fin on the heat sink. I was told everything should be "ok". Don't route for more than 30 minutes before letting it cool. Ok.
I wanted to finish my drawer fronts this morning. 3/8" roundover. I was keeping track of the time and made it to 14 minutes before I got the warning. Getting frustrated...
I was also wondering about the Speed increaser for under-table routing. Would it work on a PowerPro?

I take it you do not have a "7".

Keep the PP speed down to saw/joint speed(max for the speed increaser). The temptation to go above that is no doubt tempting.

I do have a 7.

Then the reason for considering the speed increaser???

JPG wrote:

Skizzity wrote:

JPG wrote: I take it you do not have a "7".

Keep the PP speed down to saw/joint speed(max for the speed increaser). The temptation to go above that is no doubt tempting.

I do have a 7.

Then the reason for considering the speed increaser???

It was a thought. I'm getting frustrated with the overheating. The increaser only requires 5000 rpm input for 10000 rpm out. I can run my PP for 14 minutes routing then and not overheat...

Unless Shopsmith tells you that the PowerPro is expected to overheat in that short period of time, I would not compensate just to be able to route. If they tell you that overheating in that short period of time is to be expected, then I can scratch the PowerPro from my want list.

If I was to buy a PowerPro, shaping and routing would be its most frequent task.

Skizzity wrote:

JPG wrote:

Skizzity wrote:I did get a call back on Wednesday. The engineer was also puzzled by the fin on the heat sink. I was told everything should be "ok". Don't route for more than 30 minutes before letting it cool. Ok.
I wanted to finish my drawer fronts this morning. 3/8" roundover. I was keeping track of the time and made it to 14 minutes before I got the warning. Getting frustrated...
I was also wondering about the Speed increaser for under-table routing. Would it work on a PowerPro?

I take it you do not have a "7".

Keep the PP speed down to saw/joint speed(max for the speed increaser). The temptation to go above that is no doubt tempting.

I do have a 7.

I would be very frustrated with that situation also. I wonder if the sensor that detects the heat is bad? That is a question for the MS though, just a thought.

This thread shows how another member dealt with the overheating problem. Power Pro Upgrade

My thought is, should the MS advise that or something similar? Then there is my friend, good thoughts but what ever works. That HS design was for a conventional motor not the Upgrade to a Power Pro.

From Dusty,
"I hope that this all works out well for you but do be aware that you have altered the air flow through the headstock from what it was designed to be.

I know you believe that this was wise, necessary and appropriate and that you have done nothing but improve the operating conditions by reducing the heat.

But, unless you are an engineer trained in this sort of thing, you could find yourself in an unfavorable circumstance.

Bottom Line: You may have invalidated your performance warranty."

Performance Warranty, heck it shuts down when routeing in 15ish minutes, that is not Performance in my book.

ERLover wrote:My thought is, should the MS advise that or something similar? Then there is my friend, good thoughts but what ever works.

From Dusty,
"I hope that this all works out well for you but do be aware that you have altered the air flow through the headstock from what it was designed to be.

I know you believe that this was wise, necessary and appropriate and that you have done nothing but improve the operating conditions by reducing the heat.

But, unless you are an engineer trained in this sort of thing, you could find yourself in an unfavorable circumstance.

Bottom Line: You may have invalidated your performance warranty."

Exactly why I'm not modifying my under warranty tool to get it to work. That is the engineers' job. Having to get a brand new tool to "work" isn't fun. It should be capable. NO Where in the literature have I found anything on routing times/overheating. Apparently testing wasn't done for routing then. Not even a mention in the PP error code section.
I'm adding this issue to the regret bucket. The wife isn't happy either.

Skiz,
I would not be happy either, I run my Bosh Router for that amount on time in a cabinet/table set up with dust collection/air flow and have no issues. I find this, if normal, unacceptable. Unless as I posted earlier, the sensor is malfunctioning, and giving you premature shut down, but that is a MS thing or send back. I am sure with persistence with the MS on your part, you will get some sort of satisfaction.
They monitor this Forum with like a babies radio/voice,noise monitor to mom and dad, they dont want any bad press, especially with there knew 30 minute PP Promo web video coming out.

Skizzity wrote:

ERLover wrote:My thought is, should the MS advise that or something similar? Then there is my friend, good thoughts but what ever works.

From Dusty,
"I hope that this all works out well for you but do be aware that you have altered the air flow through the headstock from what it was designed to be.

I know you believe that this was wise, necessary and appropriate and that you have done nothing but improve the operating conditions by reducing the heat.

But, unless you are an engineer trained in this sort of thing, you could find yourself in an unfavorable circumstance.

Bottom Line: You may have invalidated your performance warranty."

Exactly why I'm not modifying my under warranty tool to get it to work. That is the engineers' job. Having to get a brand new tool to "work" isn't fun. It should be capable. NO Where in the literature have I found anything on routing times/overheating. Apparently testing wasn't done for routing then. Not even a mention in the PP error code section.
I'm adding this issue to the regret bucket. The wife isn't happy either.

I certainly understand the frustration but please don't go into the regret mode yet. Push Shopsmith for a "solution" along with an explanation for why it overheats. Not words from the Customer Service level. This is an engineering matter. Then, if there is no solution, it is time to go into regret mode and that just might be time to talk about performance warranty.

I have not purchased a PowerPro so I do not know how the warranty reads. You should!