Re: 73 piece and counting shelf unit
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:57 am
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73 piece and counting shelf unit
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Re: 73 piece and counting shelf unit
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:12 pm
I am very happy to read all of this discomfort with plywood. Maybe we will all get smart and stop buying and using this product.
Re: 73 piece and counting shelf unit
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:36 pm
Please educate me!charlese wrote:I am very happy to read all of this discomfort with plywood. Maybe we will all get smart and stop buying and using this product.
Re: 73 piece and counting shelf unit
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:55 pm
Set up to reduce the thickness of the top and bottom shelf where the plywood thickness was so different. Used the dado blade and adjusted to get the thickness the same as the other shelf material. Just cut the bottom 3 edges where it needs to fit in the uprights.
Here you can see the different in thickness and where I set up to match the thickness of the other shelf material.
Looks too much like rain to set up to do the assembly today so I'll work on other things. At least when the weather clears I have all the parts ready to go.
Ed
Here you can see the different in thickness and where I set up to match the thickness of the other shelf material.
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Re: 73 piece and counting shelf unit
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:57 pm
I think what Charlese is alluding to (I hopeBuckeyeDennis wrote:Please educate me!charlese wrote:I am very happy to read all of this discomfort with plywood. Maybe we will all get smart and stop buying and using this product.
) is to make projects from solid wood. Panels, door, tops, etc from solid wood using age old techniques. At least that is what I hope he is saying! 
Re: 73 piece and counting shelf unit
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:38 pm
I do indeed prefer the aesthetics of solid wood. But Chuck is a forestry guy from way back when (OK, way way way back whenrjent wrote:I think what Charlese is alluding to (I hopeBuckeyeDennis wrote:Please educate me!charlese wrote:I am very happy to read all of this discomfort with plywood. Maybe we will all get smart and stop buying and using this product.
), and I have a hunch that there's more to his remark than mere aesthetics.Re: 73 piece and counting shelf unit
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:18 am
It sucks, even cabinet grade veneer, lets say for a set of kitchen cabinets, it would be okay for side panels till you go to stain it and it does not match the solid wood rails, stiles, and solid wood doors.
IMHO only good for shop, garage and basement utility projects and that is a high grade plywood/veneer.
IMHO only good for shop, garage and basement utility projects and that is a high grade plywood/veneer.
Re: 73 piece and counting shelf unit
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:27 am
OK - You are both correct on my thinking. Plywood is a product made for the convenience of covering large areas in a quick way. I have used plywood for probably most of the same projects as anyone else. However, I feel much better about any project I've made that used solid wood in panels and such rather than ply. I love the cabinets that have ship lapped 1/4" boards for cabinet backs rather than ply.
Yes, I am an old forester from way, way back, but I also have and had friends that harvested timber, sold timber and worked in plywood mills. One of my closest friends started and succeeded in convincing US Ply to use cottonwood in the core of fir plywood.
In my mind, it's not the decreased thickness that bothers me, That's workable with proper sized grooves and dadoes. The poor quality of the good surface is what really turns me off.
P.S -- fully agree with ERLover on this one!
Yes, I am an old forester from way, way back, but I also have and had friends that harvested timber, sold timber and worked in plywood mills. One of my closest friends started and succeeded in convincing US Ply to use cottonwood in the core of fir plywood.
In my mind, it's not the decreased thickness that bothers me, That's workable with proper sized grooves and dadoes. The poor quality of the good surface is what really turns me off.
P.S -- fully agree with ERLover on this one!
Re: 73 piece and counting shelf unit
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:08 am
Thanks, and I love not only your craftsman expertise, but your wood knowledge, it adds a lot here and I have learned a lot form you on both.charlese wrote:OK - You are both correct on my thinking. Plywood is a product made for the convenience of covering large areas in a quick way. I have used plywood for probably most of the same projects as anyone else. However, I feel much better about any project I've made that used solid wood in panels and such rather than ply. I love the cabinets that have tongue and grooved 1/4" boards for cabinet backs rather than ply.
Yes, I am an old forester from way, way back, but I also have and had friends that harvested timber, sold timber and worked in plywood mills. One of my closest friends started and succeeded in convincing US Ply to use cottonwood in the core of fir plywood.
In my mind, it's not the decreased thickness that bothers me, That's workable with proper sized grooves and dadoes. The poor quality of the good surface is what really turns me off.
P.S -- fully agree with ERLover on this one!
Re: 73 piece and counting shelf unit
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:56 pm
Finally cooled off a bit so while it was still a chance of rain this afternoon I went for it anyway. It is all put together except the casters. Need some hardy screws with big heads to attach them. Hardware store run tomorrow will take care of that.
Already have 28 boxes to to fill it up. But I will work on the casters and the pull out drawer before I start getting it in place and filling it up.
Ed
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