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Re: Outfeed Table

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:37 pm
by reible
everettdavis wrote:
I would like to know if there is a way to add a rip fence to the extension table.

EverettExtension Table Brackets - 555997 on back side of 510 table.jpg
I seem to recall a sawdust session where they showed a table with a shopsmith miter slot installed across it. Then the miter gauge could be located such that it provided support out on the table. Perhaps someone here remembers that and which one it is.

The other idea might be an off shoot of this:

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/gener ... t4437.html

There I show using the main table top mounted side by side and to the rear of the main table. I don't recall if I ever attempted to mount a second rip fence and I don't know if you could actually get them aligned well enough but perhaps in the warmer weather I'll check it out.

Ed

Re: Outfeed Table

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:49 pm
by jsburger
reible wrote:
bigmoguls wrote:I will try to remember to take a picture(s) this weekend.
Thanks! I have a 520 and both the table and two sets of the extensions. I would find not having the ability to use the tubes a big pain, I feel for you.

Ed
So what is this?

http://shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Archives ... Bevels.htm

Nick says it is the standard SS out feed table that Drew modified. It looks like it uses the tubes to attach and does not look like the one in the current catalog. Has SS changed the table and why? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Re: Outfeed Table

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:14 am
by masonsailor2
The picture in the catalog looks like the one I have. There is a difference between the table brackets based on which model you have. I like the idea of the t track for the miter gauge. I usually end up clamping a piece of wood to the ext table to support the stock but using the miter guage would be much easier.
Paul

Re: Outfeed Table

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:11 pm
by dusty
jsburger wrote:
reible wrote:
bigmoguls wrote:I will try to remember to take a picture(s) this weekend.
Thanks! I have a 520 and both the table and two sets of the extensions. I would find not having the ability to use the tubes a big pain, I feel for you.

Ed
So what is this?

http://shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Archives ... Bevels.htm

Nick says it is the standard SS out feed table that Drew modified. It looks like it uses the tubes to attach and does not look like the one in the current catalog. Has SS changed the table and why? :confused: :confused: :confused:
The Outfeed Table that is featured in this Sawdust Session NEVER went into production. Nick and I had some discussion about the features of the table. I was building one at the same time. I like to think that I had some influence on the introduction of an OFT that travel up and down along with the Main Table.

Initially, the OFT in the Sawdust session used a telescopic table support leg. By the time that the Sawdust Session was released, Drew had developed a machanism to support the OFT with as brace that went down to the bottom of the Main Table leg.

I had major issues with mine but I don't know if Nick and Drew had the same issue or not. Before it could all play out, Nick left the emply of Shopsmith and it seems the project came to an abrupt end. That is a shame because I believe that a productionized version of my OFT or the one in the Sawdust Session would be a market winner.

Until I determined the cause, my OFT would not remain coplanar with the Main Table when I adjusted for tilt. The problem turned out to be that I was supporting the outer edge of the OFT directly inline with the Main Table Support legs. The corrective action was to move that support point to be inline with the center of rotation. A very small change that made areal difference in performance.

SHOPSMITH - pay attention. This is a product (the three legged OFT) that should be in the catalog.

Re: Outfeed Table

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:37 pm
by JPG
masonsailor2 wrote:The picture in the catalog looks like the one I have. There is a difference between the table brackets based on which model you have. I like the idea of the t track for the miter gauge. I usually end up clamping a piece of wood to the ext table to support the stock but using the miter guage would be much easier.
Paul

AIUI the slots for the miter bar are simply clearance sized so the bar has somewhere to go. If that is incorrect, please someone enlighten me.

Re: Outfeed Table

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:03 pm
by jsburger
JPG wrote:
masonsailor2 wrote:The picture in the catalog looks like the one I have. There is a difference between the table brackets based on which model you have. I like the idea of the t track for the miter gauge. I usually end up clamping a piece of wood to the ext table to support the stock but using the miter guage would be much easier.
Paul

AIUI the slots for the miter bar are simply clearance sized so the bar has somewhere to go. If that is incorrect, please someone enlighten me.
That is correct but Paul is referring to the T track in the video on the out feed table that is 90° to the miter slots on the main table. Think the miter gauge used as a fence on the cast iron band saw table.

Re: Outfeed Table

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:11 pm
by JPG
Ah so! Thanks.

Re: Outfeed Table

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:25 pm
by bigmoguls
Here are some pictures I took of my OFT.

The table standing by itself
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A closer view of the black connectors that attach to the table tubes
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In this picture, the OFT black connector is resting on top of the table tube. The portion that is physically resting on top of the table tube is inserted into the table tube to support the front edge of the OFT. The other side is the same.
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This picture shows the black connector fully inserted in the table tube.
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Re: Outfeed Table

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:28 pm
by reible
I've learned something here today, I've never seen that hook up on the 510!

Some sort of plunger, spring loaded? Anyway they can come apart without destroying anything?

Ed

bigmoguls wrote:Here are some pictures I took of my OFT.

The table standing by itself


A closer view of the black connectors that attach to the table tubes

In this picture, the OFT black connector is resting on top of the table tube. The portion that is physically resting on top of the table tube is inserted into the table tube to support the front edge of the OFT. The other side is the same.


This picture shows the black connector fully inserted in the table tube.

Re: Outfeed Table

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:45 pm
by bigmoguls
reible wrote:I've learned something here today, I've never seen that hook up on the 510!

Some sort of plunger, spring loaded? Anyway they can come apart without destroying anything?

Ed
Interesting idea. Yes, it is a spring loaded plunger, you pull out on the ball to retract the plunger. But could I remove the plunger mechanism to allow for an extension tube to go inside.

Scott