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howdy again:

we have expanded our search and are comparing some different ones, some a few hours away so i have another cpl quick questions. and we are do alot of searching

Transport: if i pull the headstock off and sit it in the backseat "its a crew cab 1/2 ton" is it safe to sit and strap the frame in the bed ?? if the weather is questionable ill have it tarped. and would you all sugguset laying it on its side ??

510/520:
have read the upgrade list but just down and dirty is the 520 worth a extra 500 over a 510 ??


thanks all
Troy & Andrea

My 2cnts,,,, they are pretty versatile , I would do as ya mentioned with the head stock ,will make loading and unloading easier.
strap in the bottom section , I dont think you will have issues with it on its side.


JMO

Hobbyman2

bmsma wrote: 510/520:
have read the upgrade list but just down and dirty is the 520 worth a extra 500 over a 510 ??


thanks all
Troy & Andrea

Hi Troy! $500 is $75 dollars better than buying the upgrade kit from Shopsmith - Plus shipping Here's the site for buying a 51-/520 upgrade - http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ofence.htm

However, buying from Shopsmith you get a NEW system. No chance of the old owner screwing up the rails or fence.

On the other hand I have owned a 510 for 20 years or so and am very happy with it. Personally I dont see any advantage of a 520 other than a wider rip fence. My 510 has held it's alignment for years.

RE: transporting in a pickup = If the headstock is of the old style (belt and sheaves) there would be no problem leaving the headstock on the way tubes and laying the whole machine on it's side, provided the speed control is up (not down) and the machine is padded from scratching on the metal bed of the truck.

Not being a 510 or 520 owner, I can only offer an opinion.
Since the upgrade to the 520 is around $800, your price seems reasonable.
The utility of the 520 is unquestionably worth it. I only wish I could use one. But my present configuration won't allow it.

Here is the upgrade kit and pricing. http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/505to520.htm

Hi Troy

From one Okie to another Okie

Since you have a pick-up simply roll it into your pick-up standing up as it normally sits, strap it in and drive it home. I picked up a Mark V 510 in Siloam Springs, Ark., loaded it into my pick-up, strapped it in, let it down off the casters, strapped it in so it couldn't move and drove it to Tulsa. Absolutely no problems.

There is No reason to remove the headstock or any thing else for that matter including any SPT that may be attached. Just be sure and "lock everything" down for transport so nothing vibrates loose. If you are driving over a couple hundred miles or so I would stop and check to make nothing has worked loose.

Good Luck

Don G

bmsma wrote:howdy again:

we have expanded our search and are comparing some different ones, some a few hours away so i have another cpl quick questions. and we are do alot of searching

Transport: if i pull the headstock off and sit it in the backseat "its a crew cab 1/2 ton" is it safe to sit and strap the frame in the bed ?? if the weather is questionable ill have it tarped. and would you all suggest laying it on its side ??

thanks all
Troy & Andrea

May be outside your range, a 520, no spts but it doe's have a nice lathe chuck, https://fayar.craigslist.org/tls/5969697465.html

I have a full sized van so all of mine were moved in one piece.
Here is a video showing a way to load in vehicle.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZf-ubXKClg[/youtube]
If you need to break it down into smaller pieces, this post describes a good technique. Gone in 60 seconds

Moved a couple that way, easy peasy. Even without castors, depending on bed base, they will slide easy on a hard surface, carpeting you need to lift a bit, for that 2 people work best.

thanks all,
biggest reason for takeing the headstock off is ill put in the back seat so if we stop for the night no moisture will get to it. shouldnt hurt the frame.

and ill have the frame tarped as well and tied well.

i called and left a message and shot the ark one a cpl times but havent heard back.

also: on the headstock, when removed there are cams or guides that may move, from what i have read. is there a easy way to prevent that ??

Troy

bmsma wrote:thanks all,
biggest reason for takeing the headstock off is ill put in the back seat so if we stop for the night no moisture will get to it. shouldnt hurt the frame.

and ill have the frame tarped as well and tied well.

i called and left a message and shot the ark one a cpl times but havent heard back.

also: on the headstock, when removed there are cams or guides that may move, from what i have read. is there a easy way to prevent that ??

Troy

Probably not, and they have to be checked and positioned in there proper position to get the HS back on. If tarped I would leave the HS on, and not have to worry about getting it back on, they come off easy, getting them back on, if not familar is kinda a PITA, the tubes want to spread, pluus the internal position of the "locking cams" to be able to get it on. I have done it, but a learning experience.

I normally don't worry about taking the headstock on and off because it is pretty easy to align the wedges but if you are worried I've seen paper towel tubes, sections of PVC pipe and even the foam pipe insulation used. Pull the headstock off and insert some tube in to the holes, the closer to the actual tube size is better.

Ed