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rpd wrote:

davebodner wrote:That's the scariest photo I've seen in a long time.

Generally, I'm quite happy with our Canadian friends to the North. But, I think they owe us an apology for this!

I was listening to a meteorologist* on the radio the other day, and he said the cold Arctic outflow air originates in Siberia, and comes over the pole. Sounds like a good excuse to Blame The Russians.

Ah, so maybe it's the Russians responsible for the attack across the 49th parallel. Or, perhaps there's another culprit for the Polar Vortex. A fat man in a red suit, perhaps?

The Warmist Creed:
When water freezes, it's "weather".
When ice melts it's Global War...errr...."Climate Change".

It's all weather. How often particular weather occurs is climate.

And, yes, we're warming the atmosphere by increasing its CO2 content. I wish it weren't true, but reality doesn't care what I wish for.

davebodner wrote:...I wish it weren't true, but reality doesn't care what I wish for.

You've been manipulated by the failed NOAA/NASA models. None of their bombastic predictions have come true, quite the opposite. A good example is the "endless drought" predicted for California in 2014 that failed spectacularly this year. Orville Dam didn't get needed upgrades thanks to those failed models....

P89DC wrote:

davebodner wrote:...I wish it weren't true, but reality doesn't care what I wish for.

You've been manipulated by the failed NOAA/NASA models. None of their bombastic predictions have come true, quite the opposite. A good example is the "endless drought" predicted for California in 2014 that failed spectacularly this year. Orville Dam didn't get needed upgrades thanks to those failed models....

I daresay neither you nor I are qualified to sift through the mounds of data and make that call. So, I have to rely on the scientific organizations in the US and around the world that are pretty much in universal agreement on this issue.

Ignoring the issue of lack of qualifications, however, I have to ask: Given that we have known for 100 years that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, by what mechanism is CO2's increase in the atmosphere counteracted? How is an increase in average temperature avoided?

The local radio station where my parents live lists the record high and low each day as part of the weather report. I find it hard to accept the new theories on the weather patterns when both the record high and low for a given day are more than a hundred years ago.

I read an article about 5 years ago that made the case that global warming would actually make the most northern and the most southern part of World a frozen waste land and mid United States down to the Equator a desert. The same on the south side of the equator. The article explained the logic of it all and reading it made sense. But I can not remember the logic behind it. The so called melting of the ice caps was an expected phemonina of the process which will occur early in the warming process but as green house gases get denser this will reverse and the freezing will overcome the melting.

Guys, "global warming" or "Climate change" is for real!

Now, the REAL question, is it natural or man-made?

Sorry to get political here, but AlGore SCREAMED
global warming, and got an Emmy, Webby, Clio,
Oscar, and a Nobel Prize for it. You want to see
some REAL shockers, look at AlGore's carbon footprint,
versus George W (Dubya) Bush's house's footprint.
(I may have left out a BUNCH of other prizes Gore
got. I'm sorry)

steve

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice. —Robert Frost

thunderbirdbat wrote:The local radio station where my parents live lists the record high and low each day as part of the weather report. I find it hard to accept the new theories on the weather patterns when both the record high and low for a given day are more than a hundred years ago.

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They say we have warmed 1/10 f 1 deg fht in the last 1000 years , I remember not so long ago ,, a few years before the blizzard of 78 ,,,we were told we were going into a ice age then the blizzard hit.

the ocean actually absorbs most of the co2 , what they seem to leave out is moisture content in the atmosphere , do away with the rain forest and you release a lot of it fast , once it settles out things will change again.

he first rise in CO2 happened with out man kind .

bottom line is the climate scientist had botched the info in order to secure their funding,,,,,it is in the emails ,,, there was a article on tv a week or so ago about tracking a waring area in the gulf of mexico , theorist are now saying it is caused by the oil spill from the deep horizon that is blanketing the bottom of the gulf .
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... s-analysis

From: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL
Date: Thu Jul 8 16:30:16 2004

Mike,
... I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow - even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is !
Cheers
Phil



From: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
...I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline.
Cheers
Phil

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Not trying to convince any one one way or another , just saying the evidence strongly says we were lied to ,, or protected from the truth.