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Re: Bandsaw: New style table vs. old style table?
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:26 pm
by algale
Try that with the bandsaw, Dusty, as opposed to the beltsander! Results, I expect, will vary dramatically.
Re: Bandsaw: New style table vs. old style table?
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:33 pm
by jsburger
dusty wrote:Readjust the eccentrics so as to move the bandsaw (to the left) away from the headstock end. If a remember correctly thiswill be 180 degree rotation of the eccentrics. Before you call that done, make sure that the hub still lines up laterally.
Just to help you become a believer I attached a couple very fresh photos even though it is 110 degrees in the shop. Have faith man. I try not to mislead anyone.
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Your pictures show a belt sander not a band saw.
Re: Bandsaw: New style table vs. old style table?
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:39 pm
by DLB
With Double Tilt this issue goes away. You can't raise it with any kind of BS, or other SPT, on there.
- David
Re: Bandsaw: New style table vs. old style table?
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:03 pm
by dusty
jsburger wrote:dusty wrote:Readjust the eccentrics so as to move the bandsaw (to the left) away from the headstock end. If a remember correctly thiswill be 180 degree rotation of the eccentrics. Before you call that done, make sure that the hub still lines up laterally.
Just to help you become a believer I attached a couple very fresh photos even though it is 110 degrees in the shop. Have faith man. I try not to mislead anyone.
20200721_150139.jpg20200721_150152.jpg20200721_150223.jpg
Your pictures show a belt sander not a band saw.
You're not confused. I am, obviously. Now I have to mount the bandsaw to see for myself. I have my bandsaw mounted on a Power Stand. Maybe, just maybe this is why.
Re: Bandsaw: New style table vs. old style table?
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:06 pm
by dusty
No maybe about it. I have not yet been able to move the bandsaw to the 520 but I did pull Sketchup drawings together. If my drawings are accurate, there is about a 1" interference between the tie rod and the edge of the bandsaw table (when horizontal).
I stand corrected in all that I have declared regarding this subject.
Yes, it appears that tilting the bandsaw table 'might' provide the needed clearance.
Re: Bandsaw: New style table vs. old style table?
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:09 pm
by jsburger
dusty wrote:jsburger wrote:dusty wrote:Readjust the eccentrics so as to move the bandsaw (to the left) away from the headstock end. If a remember correctly thiswill be 180 degree rotation of the eccentrics. Before you call that done, make sure that the hub still lines up laterally.
Just to help you become a believer I attached a couple very fresh photos even though it is 110 degrees in the shop. Have faith man. I try not to mislead anyone.
20200721_150139.jpg20200721_150152.jpg20200721_150223.jpg
Your pictures show a belt sander not a band saw.
You're not confused. I am, obviously. Now I have to mount the bandsaw to see for myself. I have my bandsaw mounted on a Power Stand. Maybe, just maybe this is why.
I very early mounted my BS on a power stand because I used it so much. That was about 1995/6. SS 510 brand new was bought in 1994 with the band saw and jointer from Woodcraft. As I remember, before the power stand, I had to tilt the table to go vertical.
Re: Bandsaw: New style table vs. old style table?
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:40 pm
by JPG
Methinks I will not have to 'experiment' after all!
Re: Bandsaw: New style table vs. old style table?
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:31 am
by dusty
jsburger wrote:dusty wrote:
You're not confused. I am, obviously. Now I have to mount the bandsaw to see for myself. I have my bandsaw mounted on a Power Stand. Maybe, just maybe this is why.
I very early mounted my BS on a power stand because I used it so much. That was about 1995/6. SS 510 brand new was bought in 1994 with the band saw and jointer from Woodcraft. As I remember, before the power stand, I had to tilt the table to go vertical.
I have not yet moved the bandsaw to the 510/520 but I know what I am going to relearn. The bandsaw table will interfere with going vertical. Big fubar on me.
Re: Bandsaw: New style table vs. old style table?
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:26 am
by algale
dusty wrote:
I have not yet moved the bandsaw to the 510/520 but I know what I am going to relearn. The bandsaw table will interfere with going vertical. Big fubar on me.
We all make mistakes. Glad this one is cleared up.
Re: Bandsaw: New style table vs. old style table?
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:13 am
by Ed in Tampa
dusty wrote:JPG wrote:FWIW I have two aluminum table bandsaws.
I recently purchased a Cast iron table and intend to swap one out.
Then I will be able to compare.
One advantage of the CI table is you can leave the bandsaw mounted and still raise to vertical with the original SPT posts.
What do you define as the
original posts. The posts that came with my
original bandsaw allow me to go vertical without removing the bandsaw. I bought that bandsaw in the early nineties.
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My understanding is the eccentric tubes Dusty shows were shipped with all bandsaws and are to be used to adjust the band saw right or left ( front or back) so the drive hub lines up with Shopsmith power head. When I installed my bandsaw the instruction manual detailed the procedure to do this my bandsaw if I remember correctly was about a 1/8 inch to far to right or back and I had to loosen and and turn each post until the drive hub of the bandsaw lined up with head stock drive.
When Shopsmith came out with the aluminum table they also came out shortly after with mount tubes the were cut in half and a bar of strap steel added to offset the bandsaw further off the machine so the way tubes could be raised.