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judaspre1982 wrote:To add something positive , I just noticed that this forum now has 4000 members. I know not all are active but it seems to me that there is a new member name listed almost every day. Also if you look at the most users online statistic , it was recently accomplished in Oct-08. New members in the forum shows me there is considerable interest in the SS system. The word is getting around somehow. Long Live SS!!!!!--------Dave

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"Was told by a reliable source..."

"...an exchange between corporate lawyers and managers..."

Anyone see an oxymoron here?

With all good wishes,

Nick wrote:"Was told by a reliable source..."

"...an exchange between corporate lawyers and managers..."

Anyone see an oxymoron here?

With all good wishes,

Are you insinuating Lawyers and Managers are "unreliable"?:D

Glad you are 'active' tonight!:)

Nick wrote:"Was told by a reliable source..."

"...an exchange between corporate lawyers and managers..."

Anyone see an oxymoron here?

With all good wishes,

I thought we were to have no bashing on this forum!

a1gutterman wrote:I thought we were to have no bashing on this forum!

If it is the TRUTH, it ain't BASHING!!!:D

"Are you insinuating Lawyers and Managers are "unreliable"?"

I do believe, jpg, that the economic news of the last six months answers that question with a certainty normally reserved for death and taxes. It is my studied opinion that the bean-counters whose prognostications were reported at the beginning of this thread wouldn't know a Shopsmith if you crammed one up their assets.

With all good wishes,

Nick wrote:"Are you insinuating Lawyers and Managers are "unreliable"?"

I do believe, jpg, that the economic news of the last six months answers that question with a certainty normally reserved for death and taxes. It is my studied opinion that the bean-counters whose prognostications were reported at the beginning of this thread wouldn't know a Shopsmith if you crammed one up their assets.

With all good wishes,

I could not agree with you MORE!

Does your signature imply GOOD NEWS,:) or is it a remnant of a previous life:( ???

jpg40504 wrote:If it is the TRUTH, it ain't BASHING!!!:D

I wood agree with that, but it depends on who you ask whether there is truth or knot to any statement. One mans truth can be another mans bashing. If someone like Nick is allowed to make those kind of comments, I see no reason why any of us can knot. Tolerance should be spoken here. All opinions should be respected, knot just PC opinions.

Even as I respect Nick's opinion on this matter, and recognize his right to express it, I am pretty sure that there are attorneys and managers that are also woodworkers. Some of them probably own Mark V's and some of those Mark V owners are probably forum members...Just something to think about. I know that I think about it everytime I speak out about product made in China, or what I say about unions.

Sorry for digressing.

a1gutterman wrote:I wood agree with that, but it depends on who you ask whether there is truth or knot to any statement. One mans truth can be another mans bashing. If someone like Nick is allowed to make those kind of comments, I see no reason why any of us can knot. Tolerance should be spoken here. All opinions should be respected, knot just PC opinions.

Even as I respect Nick's opinion on this matter, and recognize his right to express it, I am pretty sure that there are attorneys and managers that are also woodworkers. Some of them probably own Mark V's and some of those Mark V owners are probably forum members...Just something to think about. I know that I think about it everytime I speak out about product made in China, or what I say about unions.

Sorry for digressing.

This is the problem with generalized statements. No not ALL lawyers and managers are unreliable! However the context must be taken into account. Not all statements are meant to be taken as absolutely serious. Sometimes a tongue in cheek is intended.

My reaction to Nicks oxymoron statement was that he was less than absolutely serious! He was however implying that MANY lawyers/managers are unreliable sources of info. Not all but Some!

Any lawyer/manager who might be offended is in my opinion over-reacting. Nothing was said of a personal criticism of an individual(rather a generalization).

It would be BASHING if it were a personal attack on an individual.

We are all subject to the foibles of being human and none of us is not in some way less than perfect. It is healthy for someone else to point out imperfection as long as it sticks to reality. Delving into imagined or undeserved criticism IS Bashing! Feeling 'hurt' by honest critique is an ego problem. We all NEED to listen honestly as well?

Philosophy rant is OVER:)

a1gutterman wrote:I wood agree with that, but it depends on who you ask whether there is truth or knot to any statement. One mans truth can be another mans bashing. If someone like Nick is allowed to make those kind of comments, I see no reason why any of us can knot. Tolerance should be spoken here. All opinions should be respected, knot just PC opinions.

Bashing becomes a problem when directed specifically at a forum member. There is nothing wrong with a heated discussion and if we start resorting to PC in the off chance that we might offend some a member of a generic group then the list will be diminished.

I have heard no shortage of engineer jokes, just listen to Car Talk on NPR yet as an engineer I can laugh along. I have no problem with Nick’s comments and have been increasingly frustrated with the doom and gloom posts since Nick and Drew left.

Welcome back Nick. I hope you will stick around.