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"TRUE" live center

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:42 pm
by JPG
bdhoward wrote:jpg40504,

If you are actually turning the wood, there is a live center that goes in the tail stock.

If you are just doing finishing work, i.e. filling dings, reducing diameter (via sandpaper), replacing ferrules or tips, the tip end just floats. It is light and sturdy enough that there is no need to attach it to the tail stock.

But my intention is to start by building joint protectors, which are small pieces of wood turned to the same OD of the cue. Joint pins are inserted in one end and collars in the other. They are used to protect the joint when the cue is broken down. Link of example attached.


http://www.poolndarts.com/p-5354-Dymond ... Joint-Cap/
Because this what he intends to do(tailstockless turning of long items), I do NOT think a turned socket would be "true" enough.:eek:

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:34 pm
by bdhoward
OK... stopped by my local Wood World in Dallas today and the manager showed me what I think I need.

A Collet Chuck with a 5/8" (0.625") insert. They have them with an adapter to mate up with the ShopSmith for about $150. It provides a lot of surface area that will come in contact with the cue maintenance arbor. They had the Talon and it looked like it would have very little surface area contact to lock onto the arbor.

I will update this thread once I have everything in place since it seems to have drawn some interest.

Also, to answer some questions from earlier posts...

I can post pictures of two high end custom cues that I own, but I have not built any. The two I own were made by Russ Espiritu. A cue builder from the midwest.

As for where the website I posted the link from gets their ivory, I don't know. The use of ivory in custom cues used to be very common. Now not so much (abalone and mother of pearl are new used for ornaments). I know that there is ivory available that has been recycled from objects made decades ago before the ban. I suppose it is possible to get it at a very high cost.

Collet Chuck

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:53 pm
by jgrounds
bdhoward wrote:OK... stopped by my local Wood World in Dallas today and the manager showed me what I think I need.

A Collet Chuck with a 5/8" (0.625") insert. They have them with an adapter to mate up with the ShopSmith for about $150.cost.
Another option might be to purchase and adapter from PSI for $16.95:
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html

Purchase a collet from Beall Tool Company for $79.00:
http://www.bealltool.com/products/turning/colletchuck.php

and purchase a 5/8 collet from a place like Enco for $12.99:
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=891-7024

Total expendure excluding shipping $108.94.

The Beall collet uses standard ER-32 collets that are available in a size range up to 3/4 inches. The setup would look something like this:

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Mine is set up for bottle stoppers with a 3/8 inch bolt cut off and a piece of UHMW for a sizing bushing.

John