Sorry I did forget you are in Australia. You may be correct about the Cast Iron Extension Table. Mine came with a later Bracket so being from Australia would make sense. The Upper Saw Guard that came with the Model 10's had three different versions as seen below. Yours is probably like the one on the bottom which is the last version.
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The Model 10 Lower Saw Blade Guard was an optional accessory. As such not many were sold. The later/current Lower Saw Blade Guard for the Mark series tool is different than the one in my previous post and I would not use it on a Model 10. Even later Lower Saw Blade Guards made for the Mark V 500 are not a good option. The only Mark 5/V Lower Saw Blade Guard I would use on my Model 10's is the one in that previous picture.
Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
Russ,
The guard that apparently came with my 10ER is the middle one in your picture, the one with a thickened edge.
On a different subject, I have been given a Magna 8 inch dado wobble blade from a friend who found it in a garage sale somewhere. It is made by Magna, not Yuba Power so seems to be an early one. It is held together by an aluminium pin unlike the Yuba ones which use two Nylok screws. Unfortunately the small pinions which engage the internal track are missing (as is the adjusting wrench but that is not a big problem). I suspect that a previous owner lost the wrench and removed the pinions so that they could adjust the degree of wobble by hand. I can remake the pinions but it might take a bit of trial and effort to get the dimensions exactly right. Is there anyone in the group that might have a drawing or sketch of the pinions that at least could give me a running start? I actually have a stacking set of dado blades and chippers which I have got together over the years but I think that it would be nice to get the wobble blade up and running again for a bit of fun! Finding another intact wobble blade to copy here in Australia would almost be impossible as it would have been a rare optional accessory.
Mike
The guard that apparently came with my 10ER is the middle one in your picture, the one with a thickened edge.
On a different subject, I have been given a Magna 8 inch dado wobble blade from a friend who found it in a garage sale somewhere. It is made by Magna, not Yuba Power so seems to be an early one. It is held together by an aluminium pin unlike the Yuba ones which use two Nylok screws. Unfortunately the small pinions which engage the internal track are missing (as is the adjusting wrench but that is not a big problem). I suspect that a previous owner lost the wrench and removed the pinions so that they could adjust the degree of wobble by hand. I can remake the pinions but it might take a bit of trial and effort to get the dimensions exactly right. Is there anyone in the group that might have a drawing or sketch of the pinions that at least could give me a running start? I actually have a stacking set of dado blades and chippers which I have got together over the years but I think that it would be nice to get the wobble blade up and running again for a bit of fun! Finding another intact wobble blade to copy here in Australia would almost be impossible as it would have been a rare optional accessory.
Mike
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
I have the magna wobble blade from 196?. IIWM, I would simply put it on the shelf and fergit it.(I never liked the groove bottom it produces - both curved and unsymmetrical).
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
I would have to take one of the Wobble Dado Blades apart to get pictures of the little adjusting gears. There were two versions of the little gears. One with a square hole and the other with a hex hole for their respective adjusting wrenches.
I have several of these Wobble Dado Blades. For the reasons JPG suggests I don't use them either. I recall one doesn't have the gears but It could still be used. The Wobble Dado Blade does not cut a square bottom but does create a curved one which the curve gets more pronounced as the Dado get wider. Mine sit in a drawer and are not used. I have stacked dado sets that I prefer to use.
As a piece of Shopsmith history (maybe for display) someone would have to look very closely to see that the gears are missing.
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I have several of these Wobble Dado Blades. For the reasons JPG suggests I don't use them either. I recall one doesn't have the gears but It could still be used. The Wobble Dado Blade does not cut a square bottom but does create a curved one which the curve gets more pronounced as the Dado get wider. Mine sit in a drawer and are not used. I have stacked dado sets that I prefer to use.
As a piece of Shopsmith history (maybe for display) someone would have to look very closely to see that the gears are missing.
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Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
Guys,
I agree that the basic problem with wobble blades is the fact that because of their action, they must leave a curved bottom to the dado with a radius equal to half the blade diameter. Sometimes this is not too much of a problem and in fact my stacking set tends to leave longitudinal lines along the dado bottom because I have sharpened the outer blades and haven't adjust ed the chippers to suit. If it is really a problem, I just lightly run a rebate plane along the dado to neaten it up. That being said, the wobble blade problem is endemic whilst any problem with a stacking set can be completely cured with a careful setup. No, I just thought that returning the wobble blade to an almost new condition was a challenge, even if it later just sat on a shelf!
By the way, almost all the applications that I have used my stacking set for, called for a stopped dado. In that case, the bulk of the work was done on the Shopsmith with the stacking set and then I finished of the dado end with a chisel and a hand router.
Mike
I agree that the basic problem with wobble blades is the fact that because of their action, they must leave a curved bottom to the dado with a radius equal to half the blade diameter. Sometimes this is not too much of a problem and in fact my stacking set tends to leave longitudinal lines along the dado bottom because I have sharpened the outer blades and haven't adjust ed the chippers to suit. If it is really a problem, I just lightly run a rebate plane along the dado to neaten it up. That being said, the wobble blade problem is endemic whilst any problem with a stacking set can be completely cured with a careful setup. No, I just thought that returning the wobble blade to an almost new condition was a challenge, even if it later just sat on a shelf!
By the way, almost all the applications that I have used my stacking set for, called for a stopped dado. In that case, the bulk of the work was done on the Shopsmith with the stacking set and then I finished of the dado end with a chisel and a hand router.
Mike