510 lower guard with a 500 table?

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Where to start!

Ed: You have verified my suspicion re 500 disc sander dust chute/520,20 lower guard.

Dkerfoot: Concise answers are not always given to wishful thinking questions. When trying to determine if a device intended to be used a certain way will 'work' a different way, all differences in the applications need to be considered. You received several 'details' regarding those 'differences'. Some confusion re terminology, but all contributers were trying to be helpful/informative. Due to an inconciseness in the original question(in slot/on edge only) you got details that were not totally relevant.

Tongue in cheek is not necessarily 'snarky'!

Animus did not remove ALL ambiguity!

John and Ed both provided the details to adequately answer your real need!

It's ok to say HUH? I do not understand - your answers are confusing. Better that than arbitrarily picking the one(s) that coincide with our wishful goal.

Keep in mind the subject matter shifted through this thread(500/510 table, sanding discs(steel/long/short), in table/aside table).

You did get an accurate answer to your 'redefined' question, but it took All the responses to get there.

It also took all the responses to get everyone 'on the same page'!

We All learned something from this thread! Thank You for starting it!

[dusty]

I did not think that the question, as originally posted, was in-concise at all.

Some of the answers, though completely correct, were not descriptive at all. No the dust collector is too large to fit between the tubes (table tubes it turns out) is also a correct statement but a photo image sure would have helped.

I didn't understand the thread at all until reible posted his pictures and I then realized that the 510 dust collector will work on the 500. But...it cannot be positioned beneath the table because of interference with the table tubes. It must be used with the sanding disk at the side of the table and not through the insert. That is the way I use the sanding disk anyhow even with a 520 - aaah - that is why I did not understand. Again, a photo image sure would have helped.

Even now the answers are some what incorrect. I have been looking for a 510 dust collector and I do not find one in the catalog at all. However, there are some parts that when combined properly will look/work like a dust collector.

They are part of the Lower Saw Guard (514358). The major parts needed are the Guard and Pin Assembly (521981) and the Guard Cover (521979).

dykerfoot - I sure hope you have gotten your question answered and that using the "dust collector" off to the side of the table works for you. If it does not, I think the home built collector box is the only known solution.

Hmmm. MaybeI need a 500 in the shop so that I understand better. Then I won't need photos. Maybe I need an ER too. And a pin router.

Aaah. Now I understand why the 500 upgrade kit includes a "Table Carriage" - so that the "Lower Saw Guard Assembly" will fit between the legs ("Table Tubes") of the table.

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I did not think that the question, as originally posted, was in-concise at all.

Some of the answers, though completely correct, were not descriptive at all. No the dust collector is too large to fit between the tubes (table tubes it turns out) is also a correct statement but a photo image sure would have helped.

I didn't understand the thread at all until reible posted his pictures and I then realized that the 510 dust collector will work on the 500. But...it cannot be positioned beneath the table because of interference with the table tubes. It must be used with the sanding disk at the side of the table and not through the insert. That is the way I use the sanding disk anyhow even with a 520 - aaah - that is why I did not understand. Again, a photo image sure would have helped.

Even now the answers are some what incorrect. I have been looking for a 510 dust collector and I do not find one in the catalog at all. However, there are some parts that when combined properly will look/work like a dust collector.

They are part of the Lower Saw Guard (514358). The major parts needed are the Guard and Pin Assembly (521981) and the Guard Cover (521979).

dykerfoot - I sure hope you have gotten your question answered and that using the "dust collector" off to the side of the table works for you. If it does not, I think the home built collector box is the only known solution.

Hmmm. MaybeI need a 500 in the shop so that I understand better. Then I won't need photos. Maybe I need an ER too. And a pin router.

Aaah. Now I understand why the 500 upgrade kit includes a "Table Carriage" - so that the "Lower Saw Guard Assembly" will fit between the legs ("Table Tubes") of the table.

The inconciseness I was alluding to was the intention to only use it off the side if the table. That got folks off onto the 'tube' branch of this discussion. It is understandable that Dkerfoot would not 'include' that detail in his original question since the larger table was not in his stable. Folks trying to answer that question having the larger table themselves and used to using it 'under the table' would(and did) concentrate on the table support tubes.

This tangential branch added unnecessary confusion!

Conciseness is a 'virtue', but shot gun replies Do add 'extra' answers.

Other things were learned in addition to an answer to the original question.

Go Wildcats!

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For those of you(us) who are Greenie/Goldie/500 deprived and confused by the table tube discussion above I provide the following:

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The tubes are 500 variety and the guard a 510.

BTW The knob(red in this pix) is the upper blade guard mounting clamp knob.

[mickyd]

For those of you(us) who are Greenie/Goldie/500 deprived and confused by the table tube discussion above I provide the following:

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The tubes are 500 variety and the guard a 510.

BTW The knob(red in this pix) is the upper blade guard mounting clamp knob.

What exactly is this intending to show?

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What exactly is this intending to show?

Obviously the guard will Not fit Between the table support tubes! Have you been following this discussion at aLL????:D

This pix is to help Dusty 'understand' since he IS 500 deprived!:eek::)

[mickyd]

Obviously the guard will Not fit Between the table support tubes! Have you been following this discussion at aLL????:D

This pix is to help Dusty 'understand' since he IS 500 deprived!:eek:

Hey....a bit "snarky" on your birthday now aren't you!!! What's the matter, didn't get that special gift you were looking for?

Honestly, for someone not real familiar with the overall system here between 500's / 510's, unique dust collectors, this has to be the one of the most confusing threads I've followed (or attempted to follow). I'm sure any rookie following this would agree.

Nice picture though. What'd you do, finally start using a tripod?

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Hey....a bit "snarky" on your birthday now aren't you!!! What's the matter, didn't get that special gift you were looking for?

Honestly, for someone not real familiar with the overall system here between 500's / 510's, unique dust collectors, this has to be the one of the most confusing threads I've followed (or attempted to follow). I'm sure any rookie following this would agree.

Nice picture though. What'd you do, finally start using a tripod?

What's a 'tripod'?:D

I thought someone would ask how the table(normally attached to the tubes) was being supported. The pix used a tube/trunion only(no table top).

[dkerfoot]

Just FYI, here are some pictures of a home made dust chute.

Thanks to all for the information. John's pictures were especially helpful. I have cobbled together a dust chute that is pretty much a direct knock-off of his. I made mine just big enough to handle a 4" dust connection on the front side and added a cover piece that covers about 75% of the top.

I tested it out by sanding away a good 2" of a 4" wide piece of 3/4" plywood and other than a few wisps in the miter slot, there was no sawdust on the table at all and none airborne that I could see. In the dust chute, all that collected was some rubber from the cleaning stick. Needless to say, I am very pleased with the results.

The idea of using the edge of the table instead of the slot was also very helpful. Since I like the old aluminum disks much better than the steel ones, (they stay true and don't deflect with pressure) I am going to standardize on them.

[dusty]

Good Show. Thanks for reporting back the results. I am so glad you found a solution to your dust problem.