drmcroberts wrote:Okay, I'll have to agree that simple is better. But, as you said, if you don't visit the forum on a daily or regular basis, it can be daunting to try to catch up when it's been a week or more since you last visited...
I also see that there are 2768 members. However, out of that "large" membership, only 83 have posted more than 10 times. That says that 2.998% of the members are active contributors while 97.001% have only registered...
If I were running this forum (and thankfully, I'm not), I would be actively probing the membership to find out what could be done to make it more useful and informative for them....
EDIT: I just did a search and found that this was done back in July of this year. However, the lively discussion that followed clearly shows there are many different opinions on the topic. I would suggest that this topic continue to be discussed so the Admins can come to a decision that all can live with....
I came to this forum to find information about how the SS was being used for pen turning. While it's obvious there are few pen turning posts here, it is one of the many facets of the Shopsmith world - they even sell a pen turning set of chisels and have a sawdust session on pen turning. Pen turning is a growing hobby. I have just started turning pens myself and am in search of more information from those using the SS to turn. I must admit,....
Don - I just cant resist commenting on the above quoted post. We agree on several of your thoughts--- & are on different pages for others.
We do agree that simpler is better.
We do agree that only a small fraction of members enter posts.
We do agree (I think) that there were almost an ad infinitum number of subjects members had suggested to "Simplify" the forum.
As I remember, in the discussion of possible subjects, I believe I mentioned, as you, there are only a relatively few that submit posts. When it was pointed out to me that many members (and guests) enjoy the Forum by only reading, I had to change my mind about trying to urge more folks posting. If a person enjoys the Forum by reading alone. How in this world could this person be talked into posting? In fact, it is probably a better idea to allow
everyone the dignity of their own choices. Their own choices are what they are going to follow anyway!
About the Admin. coming to a decision that all members can agree to: I think no one will ever get
everyone to agree on any reasonable selection of subjects. Even it we had a selection based on all Special tools - where would one find a discussion for use of measuring devices, or clamps, or workbenches, or bench hold downs, or glues, or routers, or router accessories, or different sanders, or hand planes, blade sharpening - on and on? You are interested in pens. Although I am not, I applaud your interest, knowing that someday I may join your interest. I have found that if a subject that I am interested in is not being (or has not been) discussed in the detail that I like there is only one way to fix that. And that fix is a real roll of the dice! No one may reply! Perhaps the fear of being ignored or disagreed with, is a major reason why more don't post.
The way to inspire discussion is to start a thread, or to add your personal thoughts about a subject in another thread. Your posts here for example) I have not yet found a real shortage of subjects in the Forum.
If a person wants to further discuss pen turning, is my suggestion to ask about the subject. Questions could range around pen turning, or selection of pen wood, or pen parts, or pen tools, turning speeds, pencil turning, different leads, what kind of pen inks are available, or something else. I don't know a darn thing about pen turning, but if I wanted more from turners on this forum, I would ask! You say you can't find what you want about pens - Start a discussion or two - you'll have the start of a subject base. Making your Thread titles unique will help you to find them in the future.
In another post you asked about the purpose of this Forum. I think it is pretty obvious that it is for the enjoyment and interest of Shopsmith owners - and by the fact they allow guests, it is to inform and possibly attract prospective new purchasers - and it is also a great marketing tool for the company. Let's face it - if the company didn't benefit from the Forum, they would have to charge for its use.
You also asked if a person can't find what he/she is looking for, what good is the forum? - - I think the above Paragraph and comments of others have answered that question.
Here's hoping your participation in the Forum continues and you are successful in getting the participation you would like to see.