New casters

[fiatben]

Well, I'm definitely a candidate for a wheel upgrade, and may even save my pennies and send some money Shopsmith's way, something I haven't done since they closed the retail store in Tulsa OK.

Meanwhile, I realized that my problem was that one pair of wheels did not like to rotate and go the direction I wanted to go. So, I pulled the caster assemblies off, pulled them apart and took a look. The pair that was being the most trouble were also very rusty at the top of the stem. So, wire wheel spinning on my drill clamped in a vise, I cleaned them puppies up nice and shiny, cleaned out the inside of the big thingie they stick up in with some rust penetrator and Q-tips, put a shot of lithium grease in each one, and put the darn thing back together.

I still need new tires. The old ones are pretty eaten up. But for now my 510 follows me wherever I want to go in my shop and with a surprisingly low amount of effort. I can only drool at the thought of what new, big, fat wheels with real bearings would be like.....

[2bits]

WARNING, The new instructions are greatly improved, include pictures and are even simple enough for this old dummy in Denver to follow. I have no idea who facilitated the improved instructions but my hat is off to that person or persons. Will I post them here? No way they are copyrighted.Jim

When did the "new instructions" come out? I am having issues with the new casters on new legs using a new retractable caster set. I had the new Shopsmith upside down when I put the new legs and casters on When I got it right side up (I triple checked the template alignment) The legs drag on the concrete. I measured the center to center and I came up with 1 13/16ths. Are the "new instructions" showing a different measurement?

[dusty]

WARNING, The new instructions are greatly improved, include pictures and are even simple enough for this old dummy in Denver to follow. I have no idea who facilitated the improved instructions but my hat is off to that person or persons. Will I post them here? No way they are copyrighted.Jim

When did the "new instructions" come out? I am having issues with the new casters on new legs using a new retractable caster set. I had the new Shopsmith upside down when I put the new legs and casters on When I got it right side up (I triple checked the template alignment) The legs drag on the concrete. I measured the center to center and I came up with 1 13/16ths. Are the "new instructions" showing a different measurement?

Please help me understand. I don't have holes to drill and that is a good thing. This template confuses me.

The new holes are to facilitate moving the retractable caster assembly so that the new (larger) wheels will work. Right??

To put on larger wheels, it seems like the caster assembly would have to be moved upward (away from the floor). Does this template not create new holes closer to the floor???

[Ed in Tampa]

Dusty
I think the template as shown is correct if it is applied as shown to the legs when the machine is turned upside down. That would make the holes further up the leg once the machine is righted. I believe is needed for the larger casters.

Now the question becomes should the holes be 1 13/16 away for the originals or not.

Again I would like a definitive answer.
Is the template right or not?
Do the new casters work or not?

Surely someone has installed them using the template facing the right direction and can tell us.

I would like to order a set of the casters but until I can get a conformation that they are right as they come from Shopsmith I'm going to wait.
The idea of the new casters is great but if I have to do the engineering I will just go get a set locally and engineer them to fit.

[wiredone]

Dusty

The idea of the new casters is great but if I have to do the engineering I will just go get a set locally and engineer them to fit.

That's what many of us have done. for me it was a snap.
I got my wheels at the local thrift store. (lucky for a change)

[gchapman]

Has anyone checked to see what the angle between the bench tubes and the legs are. I noticed when I tore down my Greenie that depending on how you tighten down the bench tubes it can change the angle of the legs in relation to the floor and how high the casters will lift it from the floor. If someone that has had a successful installation with the template could check the angle between the bench tubes and the legs it might be as simple as loosening the clamps and changing the leg position would give more than enough clearance with the castors in the down position.

[dusty]

Has anyone checked to see what the angle between the bench tubes and the legs are. I noticed when I tore down my Greenie that depending on how you tighten down the bench tubes it can change the angle of the legs in relation to the floor and how high the casters will lift it from the floor. If someone that has had a successful installation with the template could check the angle between the bench tubes and the legs it might be as simple as loosening the clamps and changing the leg position would give more than enough clearance with the castors in the down position.

I'm not sure that can be answered without a lot of discussion about where one should measure (to and from).

Assuming the floor is level and the bench tubes are level, we can try:

The inside of the Mark V legs (where the casters mount) rise at a 65° angle to the floor.

[dusty]

Dusty
I think the template as shown is correct if it is applied as shown to the legs when the machine is turned upside down. That would make the holes further up the leg once the machine is righted. I believe is needed for the larger casters.

Now the question becomes should the holes be 1 13/16 away for the originals or not.

Again I would like a definitive answer.
Is the template right or not?
Do the new casters work or not?

Surely someone has installed them using the template facing the right direction and can tell us.

I would like to order a set of the casters but until I can get a conformation that they are right as they come from Shopsmith I'm going to wait.
The idea of the new casters is great but if I have to do the engineering I will just go get a set locally and engineer them to fit.

You have probably hit on the correct answer, Ed and I really should have known. Doesn't every one (but me) turn the equipment upside down to work on it.

Now admittedly, this template was not sent to me and I have not read any of the associated instructions. Hopefully, if I had the entire document, I could look and see that one end is down (the floor) and the other end is UP.

[Ed in Tampa]

You have probably hit on the correct answer, Ed and I really should have known. Doesn't every one (but me) turn the equipment upside down to work on it.

Now admittedly, this template was not sent to me and I have not read any of the associated instructions. Hopefully, if I had the entire document, I could look and see that one end is down (the floor) and the other end is UP.

Dusty
I think from the discussion on the casters SS suggests you turn you Mark V upsided down to install the new casters. However like you I have not read the instructions.

But surely someone has, surely someone has followed them to the letter and can let us know do the new casters using the template work or not.

This isn't that big of thing and surely someone can give a finiter yes they work as designed, using the template or now you need to adjust the holes up and down depending on your machine and etc.

Again I want the bigger casters and I will order them from SS if everything works as designed. But if I have to engineer the things to make the casters work I don't see any reason not to just buy the casters locally.

[beeg]

Read this post here and it may have your answer.

http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showpos ... stcount=94