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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:01 pm
by robinson46176
mickyd wrote:I'm already stressing about getting the 45° miter joint up the 4 sides of the lanterns to be closed up. I know and understand the geometry aspects of it but to me, it will be a miracle if all 4 edges from top to bottom are tight. I know in boat building, when getting plank joints to match exactly, they get routed at the same time, one on each side of the routing bit so that they fit snug. (right
shipwright??) With this beast, you have 4 legs that are supposed to be in contact with the table they sit on AND sides have to be perpendicular to table AND parallel to each other!!!! Oy!!! I'm getting chest pains!!
Next time build something using weathered barn siding. While you are learning the tools "rustic" is your friend.
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:29 pm
by mickyd
shipwright wrote:Who told you that Mike? It's not a method I've ever heard of in 35 yrs or so. Maybe on canoes or something.
Paul M
It was documented in the book
The Complete Wooden Runabout Restoration Guide by
Don Danenberg, someone the Chris Craft Antique Wooden Boat club considers a guru of wooden boat restoration. I have the book so I'll take a peak when I get home.
What method did you use on the hull planks to keep them virtually 'gapless' when they bend around and also vary in width'? (or is that your next book?
)
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:36 pm
by mickyd
[quote="robinson46176"]Next time build something using weathered barn siding. While you are learning the tools "rustic" is your friend. ]
I like your thought process farmer. I just don't know if my eye can take it!! I feel like if it's doable, I can do it. Wishful thinking maybe but.......
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:55 pm
by SDSSmith
mickyd wrote:It was documented in the book
The Complete Wooden Runabout Restoration Guide by
Don Danenberg, someone the Chris Craft Antique Wooden Boat club considers a guru of wooden boat restoration. I have the book so I'll take a peak when I get home.
Mike, I am curious about your boat. I worked around many old wooden Chris Crafts back on the Chesapeake and I thought all of them (except those with plywood hulls, Cavalier line and such) had double planked bottoms. Is the bottom on your boat only single planked?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:46 pm
by ------------------------
Hey Mike!
Dont stress. Buy yourself a couple of band clamps. You will be able to pull the whole glue-up together. If you have a flaw, so be it. It is hand made, not laser cut and assembled by robots:)
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:01 pm
by shipwright
mickyd wrote:It was documented in the book
The Complete Wooden Runabout Restoration Guide by
Don Danenberg, someone the Chris Craft Antique Wooden Boat club considers a guru of wooden boat restoration. I have the book so I'll take a peak when I get home.
What method did you use on the hull planks to keep them virtually 'gapless' when they bend around and also vary in width'? (or is that your next book?
)
The "gapless fit" part is accomplished with two complimentary router bits, one bead and one cove. Shaping the variations in the hull planking to make a "seamless shape" is the boatbuilder's art and you don't learn it from a book. Sorry
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:08 pm
by mickyd
Kinda like trying to learn to be a sculptor or an artist from reading a book?
So how the heck am I going to replace the bottom on my Chris Craft. Your saying 'impossible'? Dang that boat picture looks nice!!!
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:14 pm
by mickyd
SDSSmith wrote:Mike, I am curious about your boat. I worked around many old wooden Chris Crafts back on the Chesapeake and I thought all of them (except those with plywood hulls, Cavalier line and such) had double planked bottoms. Is the bottom on your boat only single planked?
I understand it to be double hulled. My dad told me it was mahagony outer hull, oak inner hull. I don't know for sure since it's painted. I do however know that it is the original bottom but fiberglassed over.
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:27 pm
by shipwright
He probably said "mahogany over oak". This means mahogany planking over oak framing. If the bottom is double it will be two layers of mahogany.
Paul M
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:32 pm
by SDSSmith
mickyd wrote:I understand it to be double hulled. My dad told me it was mahagony outer hull, oak inner hull. I don't know for sure since it's painted. I do however know that it is the original bottom but fiberglassed over.
You might be able to tell more by looking in the bilge and see how the planks are oriented.