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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:53 pm
by mickyd
heathicus wrote:The rabbet would have been a good place to use the router with a straight bit, no? Or at least a dado blade against (and partially in) a sacrificial fence.

I learned cutting rabbets on a table saw from The Wood Whisperer. One thing I learned was you don't want the cuts to come together. Cut the surface depth a bit shallow, then cut into the side just far enough to cut the scrap loose. You'll have a little ledge in the corner - clean that up with a hand chisel for a perfect corner.

If you don't already, get a set of hand chisels then sharpen them to scary sharp. They can clean that rabbet right up. I'm a newb too, so someone else might have a better idea, but that's what I would do. The set I have was cheap. Not Harbor Freight cheap, but Lowes cheap. They seem to work just fine for me. Getting them sharp is the key.
Router bit would have been perfect but I wanted to try the table saw method. I will use the router for the other two.

Funny you mentioned chisels and scary sharp. Just today, I was researching grinding jigs since the chisels I have need a good bench grinder tune-up followed up by scary sharp. I have the glass plate, sandpaper and spray adhesive. Don't have the honing guide yet though.

Thanks for the input. If I get my chisels tuned up, I'll test them out, otherwise, I am only dealing with a cosmetic issue that I should be able to ignore since it's inside the lantern. Driving my 50 mph......

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:03 pm
by mickyd
mark-b wrote:When the lantern is assembled you dont eve see the bottom, or the rabbit, so dont feel like you have to make it so perfect:) Just enjoy!!! and as for the saw blade, go to Humpty Depot and pick up a new Freud Diablo- for less than $30 you can get a decent blade
Would love a Diablo but no gots a 5/8" arboro.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:38 pm
by heathicus
mickyd wrote:Funny you mentioned chisels and scary sharp. Just today, I was researching grinding jigs since the chisels I have need a good bench grinder tune-up followed up by scary sharp. I have the glass plate, sandpaper and spray adhesive. Don't have the honing guide yet though.
And I have the honing guide and sandpaper, but not the glass plate or spray adhesive!

Commiserating

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:10 pm
by charlese
No criticism here, just commiseration.

Cutting with the saw on the wrong side of where you wanted it? This is a standard error and occurs at inconsistent intervals. It seems the more valuable the piece the more likely it is to re-occur. I must love this error! I keep doing it at least once on each project.:(

Measuring with a steel rule? O.K. for some uses, (like a rough set-up), but it is always safer to use blocks, gauges or sample sized pieces instead of a ruler of any kind for the final set-up. Every time I try using a ruler, to set a saw, I screw it up. :(

Now that you are getting into making a little sawdust - maybe you can understand the wisdom of having some extra Bd. Ft. laying around. :p

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:09 am
by ------------------------
mickyd wrote:Would love a Diablo but no gots a 5/8" arboro.
What size arboro do ya gotz??

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:28 am
by shipwright
Rabbits eat carrots. Rabbets??? Who knows what they eat? Maybe I'm just Canadian and too closely tied to old mother England but I believe the actual spelling of your masterpiece is "rebate".

Paul M

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:38 am
by mickyd
mark-b wrote:What size arboro do ya gotz??
Buck and a quarter.....standard Mark 5 inside diameter.

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:09 am
by mickyd
Will I be able to perform this operation on the jigsaw? The sandwich is hardboard and .025" copper. The directionssay to use a scroll saw. I recall seeing somewhere that scroll give you tighter turns???
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:32 am
by heathicus
shipwright wrote:Rabbits eat carrots. Rabbets??? Who knows what they eat? Maybe I'm just Canadian and too closely tied to old mother England but I believe the actual spelling of your masterpiece is "rebate".

Paul M
It's only 8:00 in the morning and I've already learned something today!

I've never seen it spelled that way, so I had to so some research. By my prior knowledge, a "rebate" is a discount or money returned on a purchased item, typically after returning a coupon by mail and then waiting 6 to 8 months.

But my research showed me that rebate is a related word to rabbet. Googling the word "rebate" only returned results related to the above definition. But I looked up"rebate" on dictionary.com and after scrolling down the page a bit, I found the "rabbet" definition. I then looked at the Wikipedia entry for rabbet, and it stated "also known as rebate." You learn something new every day!

But now my question is, do you pronounce the woodworking joint "rebate" the same as in a "mail-in rebate", or do you pronounce it like "rabbit" or "rabett?"

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:40 am
by shipwright
Heath
Not to hijack or anything... let's call it an aside... we in Canada pronounce it just like you do (rabbet) but I have an English friend who pronounces it "rebate". I guess it's one of those little things like color /colour, "zee" / "zed", center / centre...Eh?

Paul M