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Quill twister...free

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:57 pm
by trainguytom
Not having a new enough machine to have all the really cool safety features like those hub covers, I was baffled by what this was all about. After seeing the link to the twister, I was even more baffled at why anyone (even SS owners who have demonstrated the propensity (powerpropensity?) to spend a lot on anything "shopsmith" even though other items will work.

I decided (even though I don't need one) to see how long it would take me to adapt something for this purpose. The answer: 5 minutes, which included running up & down the stairs from basement to garage a couple of times to find the stuff I needed.
Here's what I came up with. Since I don't have a Powerpro to try it on, I don't know if the handle will give you enough torque, but you could always drill it & put a cross rod in the handle.
[ATTACH]17361[/ATTACH]

The socket size that gave me the correct outside diameter to fit the SS coupling was either 5/16" or 8mm.

[ATTACH]17362[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH]17363[/ATTACH]
The cost was zip because I have a lot of sockets laying around, and I think it's prettier than the SS version.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:26 pm
by brad_nalor
^^^ Looks like a simple enough solution ^^^.

I told my wife, I needed a 'Quill Twister Tool' to order over the net and she pulled the plug on my PC. Do you think she got the wrong idea of what I was talking about? :eek:

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:34 pm
by JPG
trainguytom wrote:Not having a new enough machine to have all the really cool safety features like those hub covers, I was baffled by what this was all about. After seeing the link to the twister, I was even more baffled at why anyone (even SS owners who have demonstrated the propensity (powerpropensity?) to spend a lot on anything "shopsmith" even though other items will work.

I decided (even though I don't need one) to see how long it would take me to adapt something for this purpose. The answer: 5 minutes, which included running up & down the stairs from basement to garage a couple of times to find the stuff I needed.
Here's what I came up with. Since I don't have a Powerpro to try it on, I don't know if the handle will give you enough torque, but you could always drill it & put a cross rod in the handle.
[ATTACH]17361[/ATTACH]

The socket size that gave me the correct outside diameter to fit the SS coupling was either 5/16" or 8mm.

[ATTACH]17362[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH]17363[/ATTACH]
The cost was zip because I have a lot of sockets laying around, and I think it's prettier than the SS version.
I will leave Brad's post alone!:rolleyes:

If not enough 'torque', move it to the idler shaft for a 1.66 to 1 advantage!;)

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 3:11 pm
by paulmcohen
JPG40504 wrote:Ah so! Are the mounting holes different diameters or different 'depth'? That would imply different gauge or length.


Since there seems to be no mention of nuts etc, self threading screws are likely.

Lastly there is possible interfering with internal stuff???

I believe they are either self threading or the hole is threaded, I need someone who has installed one to tell me.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:05 pm
by dusty
paulmcohen wrote:I believe they are either self threading or the hole is threaded, I need someone who has installed one to tell me.
You are installing this Hub Cover onto the motor cover - right?

Is your motor cover thick enough to tap? If NO (which I suspect) then you will have to use either sheet metal screws or bolts and nuts. The size of the bolt will be dictated by the hole in the hub cover. If you use a bolt (I would not) then the size of the nut is dictated by the bolt you choose. If you do use bolts and nuts, please use self locking nuts. You really don't want a loose nut running around in your new PowerPro headstock (the reason why I would use sheet metal screws).

BTW Have you checked the illustrated parts drawings in your PowerPro Operators Manual. I don't have a manual or I would do that for you too.

Go for it, Paul. You can do this.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:40 pm
by charlese
JPG40504 wrote:Tinnerman clip?

No Clip! As I remember, the screw just tightened into the belt cover. Like a sheet metal screw.

Change of subject:
This afternoon, had a chance to see if I could rotate the spindle by using the silver colored circular ring on the end of the spindle. I found it easy to rotate the spindle over 180 degrees when the saw is in place and the saw guard has been tightened in place. Unless a guy has real fat fingers this should be a no problem and a no brainer. That silver ring has flutes that allow a good grip.

Maybe a PowerPro is a lot easier to turn than the headstocks with sheaves, but I can't remember the old headstock being too stiff.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:45 pm
by dusty
charlese wrote:No Clip! As I remember, the screw just tightened into the belt cover. Like a sheet metal screw.

Change of subject:
This afternoon, had a chance to see if I could rotate the spindle by using the silver colored circular ring on the end of the spindle. I found it easy to rotate the spindle over 180 degrees when the saw is in place and the saw guard has been tightened in place. Unless a guy has real fat fingers this should be a no problem and a no brainer. That silver ring has flutes that allow a good grip.

Maybe a PowerPro is a lot easier to turn than the headstocks with sheaves, but I can't remember the old headstock being too stiff.
Does this mean that the PowerPro comes with the new Hub Cover?

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:58 pm
by charlese
dusty wrote:Does this mean that the PowerPro comes with the new Hub Cover?

It didn't come with the PowerPro DIY kit. I would guess if a new 520 machine or Mark 7 is ordered, it would come with a hub cover.

Come to think of it - My repaired PowerPro came in a cardboard box and the lower hub had been pushed into the headstock, This mis-aligned my lower bearings (the ones in the eccentric). This gave me fits and caused a re-adjustment of the belts.:mad: Maybe a cover would have avoided that issue.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:04 pm
by robinson46176
JPG40504 wrote:Ah so! Are the mounting holes different diameters or different 'depth'? That would imply different gauge or length.


Since there seems to be no mention of nuts etc, self threading screws are likely.

Lastly there is possible interfering with internal stuff???


Here is the best way I know to deal with mounting threads in sheet metal...

[ATTACH]17366[/ATTACH]


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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:36 pm
by fjimp
Yes my new Power Pro from late 2010, did come with the cover. Did I install it, No. Did either of my 520's (which did also come with covers) have one installed, No. Is it difficult to turn without the new "gizze whizzle" tool, Not at all. Do I plan to order the tool, not unless Shopsmith or another wise source can convince me of the need. Do I intend to enter into further posts regarding this subject? No way I want to go thru the wheel discussion syndrome again. :D:confused::eek: Jim