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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:32 pm
by dusty
That is correct but does that answer your question---Is this for the Forum or Shopsmith website?
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:38 pm
by joedw00
Yes this is for the Shopsmith Website not the forum. I thought you were talking about the forum.
Usage Restrictions
Shopsmith Forum Rules
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:33 pm
by joedw00
This is what we had to agree to when we registered.
Shopsmith Forum Rules
Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.
Although the administrators and moderators of Shopsmith Forums will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Shopsmith Forums, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message.
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.
The owners of Shopsmith Forums reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason. COMMERCIAL USE OF THIS FORUM IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:23 am
by dusty
joedw00 wrote:This is what we had to agree to when we registered.
Shopsmith Forum Rules
Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.
Although the administrators and moderators of Shopsmith Forums will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Shopsmith Forums, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message.
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.
The owners of Shopsmith Forums reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason. COMMERCIAL USE OF THIS FORUM IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
Thank you, Joe.
This is not exactly how I remembered it but that is not unusual. I haven't forgotten my name, yet, but I have forgotten my phone number.
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:14 am
by ChrisNeilan
What is considered commercial use? Is reposting someone else's craigslist link commercial use or simply passing on information? It can get tricky...
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:06 am
by dusty
ChrisNeilan wrote:What is considered commercial use? Is reposting someone else's craigslist link commercial use or simply passing on information? It can get tricky...
This has been the topic of discussion here on the forum more than once.
I do not believe that a consensus has developed but I have developed an opinion, for whatever that is worth.
I believe that if you do something that results in you collecting monies (not necessarily make a profit), you have been involved in a commercial act.
Sending me your unneeded headstock in exchange for what ever I want to give back to you would, in my opinion, be a commercial act. Even if what I send back to you is a burned out motor, we participated in a "commercial exchange". I gained - you lost.
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:37 am
by fredsheldon
I have spent thousands of dollars upgrading and maintaining my 6 Shopsmiths which I have acquired via Craigslist. I'm sure the mothership would have preferred I purchased new machines, but they surely are happy with what business they get from me and are not going to run me off because I post a link now and again to Craigslist. At least they are gaining possible new customers for their parts that they might not have otherwise if purchasing new units was the only way to get into this hobby.
I'm sure they will let me know when I step out of bounds. Until then I will continue to alert the members here of what I consider great deals.
Fred
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:47 am
by admin
Our purpose in the forum is to provide added information and support to Shopsmith enthusiasts.
Others (Craigslist, Ebay, etc.) provide places for buying and selling of items.
The definition of "results in you collecting money" comes close to our intention.
While I appreciate the sharing of great deals, I do have a concern that it clutters the forum (many posts here have lasting information value, an old post about an item that was on Craigslist a year ago is much less useful to newer readers).
To minimize the issue, could we start a thread (in Community) and add posts to that one thread about items found? Although not an "official" policy, I would, as current admin, certainly find that a reasonable approach.
dusty wrote:This has been the topic of discussion here on the forum more than once.
I do not believe that a consensus has developed but I have developed an opinion, for whatever that is worth.
I believe that if you do something that results in you collecting monies (not necessarily make a profit), you have been involved in a commercial act.
Sending me your unneeded headstock in exchange for what ever I want to give back to you would, in my opinion, be a commercial act. Even if what I send back to you is a burned out motor, we participated in a "commercial exchange". I gained - you lost.
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:22 pm
by fredsheldon
admin wrote:
To minimize the issue, could we start a thread (in Community) and add posts to that one thread about items found? Although not an "official" policy, I would, as current admin, certainly find that a reasonable approach.
A perfect solution. I would use it if it was there. Is there some way to keep the thread at the top of the list.
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:05 pm
by idcook
’lo Dusty,
Though arriving a little late to the skirmish my reason for interest in those kinds of posts is because I just plain get a kick out of seeing what’s offered, wherever it is.
These posts often offer a newbie such as myself some previously unrecognized understandings of the machines. As those who’re more familiar with the systems tend to offer comments regarding condition and parts that may be missing or even not belonging to the machine at all.
Also, unusual things pop up. Such as a recent offering showing what looked to be a sort of Mark V head mounted on an unusual base being offered as an early prototype.
In general these posts simply pique my curiosity without me having to do all the searching.
Frankly speaking, I enjoy them.