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Re: Drill Press Quill Retract ?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:50 am
by TooTall
Skou,

You wrote:

Put the drill chuck on the spindle to make
this easier, and remove the upper belt guard. Hold one in
place, and turn the other, and they will mesh up.


Good tip about the chuck on . . . it went well without it though.
What kept hanging me up weren't the splines, it was the two brass plugs of the quill lock
that had strayed from their original positions..

You might need to do this a couple times, until you get the
tension you want.


No kidding. I went for 3.5 turns which felt fine while the head Stock was horizontal,
but my last move tonight was to stand it up and it became obvious that it needs another half turn.

Abridged version, remove the stop nuts. Advance quill until
that stops. Advance another 1/2 turn further. Push quill in,
while winding the handle in. Check tension, rinse and repeat
as needed. Replace stop nuts and washer.


What exactly is the correct placement of that lone washer?

HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED:

I said that the spring didn't appear to be broken, but upon closer inspection I could see what looked like three spring ends against the inside of the housing. It looked like the spring had broken 2" away from the curled catch at the end. So I made a mark and stared pulling the spring out of the housing through the slot. It turns out someone had overlapped the break and put two thin rivets in to reconnect -- nice job actually. So now I've got a problem. I've got most of the spring in the housing and the hooked tail right out of the slot.

I was close to pulling the spring out of the housing altogether, and rewinding it according to another thread someone here sent me to, but decided to have a go at stuffing it back in.
So I put the housing in a vise, got the spring vack in it's slot (but still sticking out. With a small wooden block underneath I clamped the spring in a C clamp and tapped on the clamp to get most of it back in. Then I raised it enough in the vise to get the pinion shaft in so I could get the spring to contract to relieve pressure where the spring meets the inside wall . . . and got it all the way back in.

When putting the shaft in the spring almost escaped on me because I hadn't put the collar on on the far side . . . and to do that right one has to make sure that the spring retaining pin is pulled backwith the spring to the backside of the spring housing, then the part of the shaft that enters the Head Stock needs to be flush with the Head Stock and THEN the collar lock goes on the far side, and finally the collar lock on the SS Logo side.

I found that I could retract the Quill enough to get the brass Quill lock pieces right, without the splined end coming out again at the pulley end.

Thanks much,
Terry

Re: Drill Press Quill Retract ?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:14 am
by oldiron
I have a lot of experience with the model 10 and have a lot of model 10's. That's why I kept saying "4" full turns when rewinding the spring. The extra 1/2 turn will never hurt the spring!

There is a much easier way to get the spring back in the housing if you need to do it again. You simply place the quill feed pinion shaft in a vice between two pieces of wood. Have a pair of vise grip needle nose pliers handy. You attach the spring to the retaining pin and wind it by rotating the pinion shaft while holding tension on the spring. Once you have it wound tight, grip it with the locking pliers. Rotate the shaft in the opposite direction to disengage the spring from the pin. With the locking pliers holding the spring, slide the spring off the shaft and install it in the spring housing. Connect the outside of the spring in the slot of the housing. Slowly release the locking pliers. Now, slide the shaft through the housing and reconnect the spring to the retaining pin and that's it.

This has been enjoyable providing a helping hand so if any further assistance is needed, let us know!!!

Mike

Re: Drill Press Quill Retract ?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:39 am
by dusty
oldiron wrote:I have a lot of experience with the model 10 and have a lot of model 10's. That's why I kept saying "4" full turns when rewinding the spring. The extra 1/2 turn will never hurt the spring!

There is a much easier way to get the spring back in the housing if you need to do it again.

You simply place the quill feed pinion shaft in a vice between two pieces of wood.

Have a pair of vise grip needle nose pliers handy. You attach the spring to the retaining pin and wind it by rotating the pinion shaft while holding tension on the spring.

Once you have it wound tight, grip it with the locking pliers.

Rotate the shaft in the opposite direction to disengage the spring from the pin. With the locking pliers holding the spring, slide the spring off the shaft and install it in the spring housing.

Connect the outside of the spring in the slot of the housing. Slowly release the locking pliers. Now, slide the shaft through the housing and reconnect the spring to the retaining pin and that's it.

This has been enjoyable providing a helping hand so if any further assistance is needed, let us know!!!

Mike
Sounds simple. Pictures to go along with this might be really helpful. I fought the process once and I hope to not do it again but it would not hurt to have a recovery plan with pictures.

Re: Drill Press Quill Retract ?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:06 am
by oldiron
Dusty, I will try to get some pictures posted tonight. I would rather do a short video but don't know how to get it posted to the forum.

Mike

Re: Drill Press Quill Retract ?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:14 am
by dusty
oldiron wrote:Dusty, I will try to get some pictures posted tonight. I would rather do a short video but don't know how to get it posted to the forum.

Mike
A video would probably be better. The only way that I know to post a video is to put it on UTube first and then call it by reference here in the forum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZIO-cq8jik

Re: Drill Press Quill Retract ?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:26 am
by rjent
Oldiron, if you don't have, or want, a Youtube account, I would be glad to upload it to mine. Email me the video and I will put it on my Youtube account if you want.

Re: Drill Press Quill Retract ?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:02 pm
by oldiron
Okay Dick. I will try it later tonight or early tomorrow morning and see how it goes...

Mike

Re: Drill Press Quill Retract ?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:02 pm
by oldiron
Sorry for the double post.

Mike

Re: Drill Press Quill Retract ?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:13 pm
by JPG
oldiron wrote:Okay Dick. I will try it later tonight or early tomorrow morning and see how it goes...

Mike
FWIW you can delete the 'duplicate' post if it has not been 'added' to. Doing so quickly is a good idea. Actually easier than apologizing. ;)

Re: Drill Press Quill Retract ?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:13 pm
by oldiron
I tried deleting the double post immediately after it went through however, It said I'm not able to delete a post from this forum.

How do you eliminate it at that point?

Mike