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dusty wrote:

jsburger wrote:

dusty wrote:
You should be surprised, Poorly stated. Not to the bottom of the silo (where the missile resided) but to the lower level of the entry portal.

All containers brought onto the site were physically inspected prior to entry (at the Entry Portal).

Unless you were the relief launch crew during changeover. Nobody checked bags in or out for the launch crews because you wanted to get out of that place as quick as possible after your 24 hour shift was up.
The maintenance crews were a different story though. You never knew what those guys would try to sneak in.

WileyCoyote wrote:

dusty wrote:

jsburger wrote:

All containers brought onto the site were physically inspected prior to entry (at the Entry Portal).

Unless you were the relief launch crew during changeover. Nobody checked bags in or out for the launch crews because you wanted to get out of that place as quick as possible after your 24 hour shift was up.
The maintenance crews were a different story though. You never knew what those guys would try to sneak in.

So the ENLISTED maintenance crews could not be trusted even though they had the same TS clearance as you elite OFFICERS. Please don't go there. There are no differences in security standards between officers and enlisted personnel. I am sure Dusty, a maintenance personnel, on the Titan missile system will confirm that.

I was enlisted, too. There were two officers and two enlisted on each launch crew and as Dusty will attest, we poked fun at one another constantly during our time, not only in the silo, but also in the dorms and NCO club. That is part of the camaraderie of being in the military. If you can't have a little fun around a nuke, you should change career fields. The folks in SAC were a very tight bunch, almost like family. BTW, when they shut down the Titans I cross trained into Comm Maintenance.

I need to impose a moratorium on Home Depot. I cannot afford to continue visiting that place.

I bought my Husky 15 drawer tool chest there a few weeks ago and today I spent nearly a $1000 on 3ea Husky two door storage cabinets. I am totally impressed with the quality of Husky products (and I don't even know where they are built).

At the same time, I am seriously disappointed with the five Craftsman Wall cabinets that started this spending spree of mine. The price was good (got them on a store wide clearance sale) but they do lack quality (by comparison).

dusty wrote:I need to impose a moratorium on Home Depot. I cannot afford to continue visiting that place.

I bought my Husky 15 drawer tool chest there a few weeks ago and today I spent nearly a $1000 on 3ea Husky two door storage cabinets. I am totally impressed with the quality of Husky products (and I don't even know where they are built).

At the same time, I am seriously disappointed with the five Craftsman Wall cabinets that started this spending spree of mine. The price was good (got them on a store wide clearance sale) but they do lack quality (by comparison).

Remember when you were growing up in the early 50's after WW II we called it Japanese junk. Now we call it Chinese junk. Japan certainly turned there quality around long ago. I think with China it depends on the parent company. If it is Chinese or other than US company the products are inferior. As for US companies manufacturing in China it is a mixes bag. High quality US companies that manufacture in China I hope insist on their quality standards. If you want something cheap (Harbor Freight comes to mind) then you get Chinese junk.

As for Craftsman, Sears is trying to stay afloat. Who knows what their quality control is now. The Sears store in Ogden (about 6 miles from me) closed about 4 months ago. The closest Sears store to me is now 40+ miles away. I canceled my Sears credit card. I won't be going to Sears any more after 50+ years.

Craftsman is now owned by Stanley Block and Decker and you will be able to buy Craftsman tools at Lowes very soon if not right now. While Sears is a dumpster fire, I have not seen deterioration in Craftsman's quality.

sehast wrote:Craftsman is now owned by Stanley Block and Decker and you will be able to buy Craftsman tools at Lowes very soon if not right now. While Sears is a dumpster fire, I have not seen deterioration in Craftsman's quality.

REALLY????



How far back are you using as a reference?

JPG wrote:

sehast wrote:Craftsman is now owned by Stanley Block and Decker and you will be able to buy Craftsman tools at Lowes very soon if not right now. While Sears is a dumpster fire, I have not seen deterioration in Craftsman's quality.

REALLY????



How far back are you using as a reference?

Craftsman was high quality 50 years ago. Kind of like SS, parts were available for almost everything. No more. Just because the brand name still exists does not mean the Craftsman quality of the old days is still there.

It used to be you could only buy Craftsman at Sears stores. As things went down hill you saw Craftsman tools in other stores as a way to increase sales.

I have had two ratchets repaired free in the last few years. First in the Ogden store. Then they stopped that so I had to go to the Salt Lake store 35 miles away. To their credit they did it while I waited. The Salt Lake store is now closed as i sthe Ogden store.

JPG wrote:

sehast wrote:Craftsman is now owned by Stanley Block and Decker and you will be able to buy Craftsman tools at Lowes very soon if not right now. While Sears is a dumpster fire, I have not seen deterioration in Craftsman's quality.

REALLY????



How far back are you using as a reference?

AMEN! Craftsman once was a name connected to quality but I would say in the last 30-40 years that quality was lost. Last thing I bought was a set of drift pins and pin punches.
They bent, mushroomed and just were junk. I took them back and the salesman said they stopped hardening them to avoid suit where people using them wrong would shatter them and get hurt and sue

My toolbox is filled with old craftsman tools all quality but I haven't bought new craftsman tool in
25 years. To me the new tools are junk.

Well I have to admit most of my Crasftman tools are from the 70's but they keep replacing and broken tools I have. The tools I have bought in the last 10 years,not many, seem to be OK.