I was thinking maybe that calming idea might make a good poster to put up down by the front door for SWMBO on days when packages of tools are arriving.... The last three days... three shipments.... two more on the way... I think that might be a good investment.
Ed
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baysidebob
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Ed, sounds to me like your SWMBO must be pretty understanding. With all these surprise packages arriving does she help you carry them into the shop? When you purchase a new item or two does that mean she also gets to purchase a new item or two?
Mine would have said 'IN ALL FAIRNESS". and that would pretty much be the end of discussion.
Bayside Bob, Calif.
Mine would have said 'IN ALL FAIRNESS". and that would pretty much be the end of discussion.
Bayside Bob, Calif.
I keep finding little windows on this forum, that I don't really know what they do. So sometimes I experiment. Probably shouldn't do that, I know in my shop it can get me into trouble.
Bayside Bob
Bayside Bob
Shucks - couldn't get calmed down by the picture! Of course, I wasn't riled up in the first place. Also nothing rotated for me either. Guess I didn't need calmed.
I hope we all can understand and adhere to Ed's advice. Both Eds! One Ed said Hartville Tool is a good outfit - one Ed said it is easy to make one of these tools fit a Mark V.
It would be my bet that not more than a handful of the thousands of Shopsmith owners would order one of these gadgets.
I hope we all can understand and adhere to Ed's advice. Both Eds! One Ed said Hartville Tool is a good outfit - one Ed said it is easy to make one of these tools fit a Mark V.
It would be my bet that not more than a handful of the thousands of Shopsmith owners would order one of these gadgets.
Octogenarian's have an earned right to be a curmudgeon.
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Rejoice in the wife of your youth... after being married for 38 years we have developed "understandings", we work together on a budget and I get to set aside funds for tools. The amount varies by what we think the next year will bring... or so to say I have a high end of what I can spend. Sometimes like this year we moved from a Dec to Dec year to a Nov to Nov year so I could take advantage of sales and free shipping offers. That cost me a few $$ since my 2008 budget has been gone since last summer...
I have other hobbies as well and while I can spend some money on them it is very limited... if I want to get a new camera this year for $300+ it has to come out of my tool budget.... major $$ for some thing for my hobby car same thing. Also if something major happens during the year it might well end up coming out of my tool budget. Last year we budgeted money for a new roof on the house, so that would not count... but when my computer monitor died the new one came out of my tool account... anyway that is sort of how it works.
On the plus side if I get gift money I can of course spend that as I like... if I sell something of mine, or that I make for someone that adds to my budget.
The past three years have been all down hill tool purchase wise... once your retire and get on a fixed income that happens. I can see in the not to distance future getting to the point of having no money for tools... and if things really tank out no money for wood, guess that would sort of end the woodworking hobby.
Ed
I have other hobbies as well and while I can spend some money on them it is very limited... if I want to get a new camera this year for $300+ it has to come out of my tool budget.... major $$ for some thing for my hobby car same thing. Also if something major happens during the year it might well end up coming out of my tool budget. Last year we budgeted money for a new roof on the house, so that would not count... but when my computer monitor died the new one came out of my tool account... anyway that is sort of how it works.
On the plus side if I get gift money I can of course spend that as I like... if I sell something of mine, or that I make for someone that adds to my budget.
The past three years have been all down hill tool purchase wise... once your retire and get on a fixed income that happens. I can see in the not to distance future getting to the point of having no money for tools... and if things really tank out no money for wood, guess that would sort of end the woodworking hobby.
Ed
baysidebob wrote:Ed, sounds to me like your SWMBO must be pretty understanding. With all these surprise packages arriving does she help you carry them into the shop? When you purchase a new item or two does that mean she also gets to purchase a new item or two?
Mine would have said 'IN ALL FAIRNESS". and that would pretty much be the end of discussion.
Bayside Bob, Calif.
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what where we talking about.
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How could this thread be complete without a post by me? 
No offense, dusty, but that catalog's trip to the round file cabinet is, IMHO, a kneejerk reaction. It wood be really nice if every tool on the market had a SS version, but it just is knot so. Adapt. Create. Be happy.
Another thing maybe worth mentioning; in post 24, Ed in Tampa says that SS makes their tools just different enough that other brand tools will knot work on them. Please keep in mind that the SS's have been around for a long time, and most SS "things" (knot all the parts, but the tools and accessories) will interchange with any SS ever made. Back when these things were engineered, what was the standard? I have a feeling there was knot just one "standard". SS has stuck with their original designs (for the most part) and that has been a very good thing for their customers. Want to buy a used jointer? planer? miter guage? etc., etc.? No worries! You know they will fit!!! Have an old SS? Want to buy a new jointer? planer? miter guage? etc., etc.? No worries! You know they will fit!!! If a SS owner truly wants one of these new toys, I am sure that it can be made to work. Like Ed Reible said, we do knot want to give SS users a bad name.
No offense, dusty, but that catalog's trip to the round file cabinet is, IMHO, a kneejerk reaction. It wood be really nice if every tool on the market had a SS version, but it just is knot so. Adapt. Create. Be happy.
Another thing maybe worth mentioning; in post 24, Ed in Tampa says that SS makes their tools just different enough that other brand tools will knot work on them. Please keep in mind that the SS's have been around for a long time, and most SS "things" (knot all the parts, but the tools and accessories) will interchange with any SS ever made. Back when these things were engineered, what was the standard? I have a feeling there was knot just one "standard". SS has stuck with their original designs (for the most part) and that has been a very good thing for their customers. Want to buy a used jointer? planer? miter guage? etc., etc.? No worries! You know they will fit!!! Have an old SS? Want to buy a new jointer? planer? miter guage? etc., etc.? No worries! You know they will fit!!! If a SS owner truly wants one of these new toys, I am sure that it can be made to work. Like Ed Reible said, we do knot want to give SS users a bad name.
Tim
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Modifying Hart Digital Miter Gauge.
I can't see what the width of the miter bar has to do with the accuracy/design of the DRO. It surely has a calibration routine. Why can't you have the bar removed and machined to the width of the SS miter slot? Then drill three or four holes through the thickness of the bar (from left to right as it sits in the slot). Thread these for an allen head set screw to adjust the slop out of the bar.
I realize that most SS Owners do not have a milling machine in their shop, but it could be taken to a local machine shop for modification. The Hartville warranty may be void, but I would hope not.
Also, I agree with many who posted that we should not boycott every manufacturer who does not support SS. Unfortunately many who supported the SS are canceling their SS compatible product lines. This can only be because these lines are unprofitable. I'm sure the number of actual customers is very small. It doesn't matter if there are a million of us; it only matters the rate at which they are selling.
BTW: Incra still has a few of their discontinued adjustable fence systems for the SS.
I realize that most SS Owners do not have a milling machine in their shop, but it could be taken to a local machine shop for modification. The Hartville warranty may be void, but I would hope not.
Also, I agree with many who posted that we should not boycott every manufacturer who does not support SS. Unfortunately many who supported the SS are canceling their SS compatible product lines. This can only be because these lines are unprofitable. I'm sure the number of actual customers is very small. It doesn't matter if there are a million of us; it only matters the rate at which they are selling.
BTW: Incra still has a few of their discontinued adjustable fence systems for the SS.