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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:19 pm
by dusty
[quote="paul269"]Bruce and A1,
As I said in my previous post, I am not trying to defend the actions of individuals. I am attempting to help people understand there are times when police officers use tactics that are obscure to other citizens. Remember there are about 750,000 LEOs in the US. On the news, you will hear about some of the bad cops, but rarely do you hear news about the good cops. Regarding the ambush situations, the unfortunate incident in Pennsylvania helps to prove my point. .
You also bring up another catch 22 for law enforcement. As an individual, you would like to see more traffic enforcement. Therefore, your local department responds with increased traffic patrols. They may include the media in their plans to warn drivers to slow down. Then another segment of the population becomes upset and complains to the Mayor. This segment wants police resources spent on “]
I live in a border community.
If law enforcement (city, county and federal) had the borders under control I would say they should be working on traffic control. Until then - NO. They have their hands full with the real bad guys. In the mean time, get real tough on traffic violations (accidents) when they do occur. DUIs may need to be an exception; this violator needs to be actively pursued all the time.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:50 pm
by JPG
Next year Lexington, KY is hosting the WORLD EQUESTRIAN GAMES as the first location OUTSIDE of Europe. In addition to the right side left side of the road to drive on they will also have to learn that if they drive at or below the 'speed limit' they will get run over and if during rush hours they may also get cursed at!
Our city 'council' in its unfanthomable(sp) wisdom PUBLICY debated setting a speed limit on a 'new' road. They said "if we set it at 45, everyone will drive 55, therefore we need to set it at 35 to limit speed to 45". Since then just about everyone has been driving up to 10 mph over the 'limits'(some go 20 mph faster)[others...].
Next year 2010 WILL be interesting!
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:25 am
by Gene Howe
dusty wrote:I live in a border community.
If law enforcement (city, county and federal) had the borders under control I would say they should be working on traffic control. Until then - NO. They have their hands full with the real bad guys.
Agreed. Leave Arpiao alone!
AZ has a big border problem AND a nasty DUI problem.
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:44 pm
by robinson46176
The total absence of any workshop related magazine in every #$%& medical waiting room in the country...
What is there is all sports (don't waste my time), woman's magazines and three year old news magazines that were over a month out of date when they were sent out...

Shop related magazines are good "forever".

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:31 pm
by Bruce
robinson46176 wrote:The total absence of any workshop related magazine in every #$%& medical waiting room in the country...
What is there is all sports (don't waste my time), woman's magazines and three year old news magazines that were over a month out of date when they were sent out...

Shop related magazines are good "forever".

Agreed! You'd think with what we pay for health care they could provide some decent reading while we wait. I'm tired of People magazines, old SI's and car mags.
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:30 pm
by paul269
Robinson,
Take your old magazines to the Doctor’s office the next time you visit.
I usually take my old Guns and Ammo magazines in the hope others will gain firearm knowledge from someplace other than the Clinton News Network (CNN) or the Clinton Broadcasting System (CBS).
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:15 pm
by judaspre1982
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:45 pm
by JPG
paul269 wrote:Robinson,
Take your old magazines to the Doctor’s office the next time you visit.
I usually take my old Guns and Ammo magazines in the hope others will gain firearm knowledge from someplace other than the Clinton News Network (CNN) or the Clinton Broadcasting System (CBS).
He tried that! They looked down their noses at him and told him to never do that again! In the between time, they had thrown them out!
At least I
think it was Farmer Francis!:o
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:56 pm
by Ed in Tampa
paul269 wrote:Bruce and A1,
As I said in my previous post, I am not trying to defend the actions of individuals. I am attempting to help people understand there are times when police officers use tactics that are obscure to other citizens. Remember there are about 750,000 LEOs in the US. On the news, you will hear about some of the bad cops, but rarely do you hear news about the good cops. Regarding the ambush situations, the unfortunate incident in Pennsylvania helps to prove my point. .
You also bring up another catch 22 for law enforcement. As an individual, you would like to see more traffic enforcement. Therefore, your local department responds with increased traffic patrols. They may include the media in their plans to warn drivers to slow down. Then another segment of the population becomes upset and complains to the Mayor. This segment wants police resources spent on “serious” crimes like gang violence.
Either way it is a catch 22. Use resources to enforce traffic laws, upset one segment. Transfer resources to combat other criminal activity, upset another segment of the population.
BTW, the city where I live has foot, bike, and car patrols. Sorry no horses or motorcycles.
In Tampa the police drive their cars home at night. I live about 10 miles north of the city. I see Tampa police cars speeding north.
I don't think they are responding to anything other than they are going home. The problem is our youth are watching this and the lesson they learn is if you have the power you do what you want.
Their society promises them power in gangs, and/or money, and crimeis the easiest way to get the money. Bad lessons
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:04 pm
by paul269
Ed, I agree. They should set an example in hopes others will follow. As it stands we all set an example. Some demonstrate how to act and some how NOT to act.