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copperhill wrote:Wow and thanks for the offer. I had ordered a leg and casters already - installed. As for the tie bar. I am not sure I can get the old one off. There is an aluminum bar with 4 screws holding it on. The screws are rusted tight and the allen heads are stripped. How essential is it to change this tie bar?

Thanks again for your generous offer.

Have you tried removing the set screws under the tie bar?

If you are 'lucky' they are there, and the 4 stripped ones do not penetrate the way tubes.

If not removal becomes quite difficult from your description(requires the use of screw extractors and/or drilling).

If the waytubes are spaced correctly by the broken/barred tie bar, then removal may not be 'required'(recommended though). That then becomes a matter of your choice.

Perhaps that 'decision' is best delayed until you are more comfortable with the task(and have determined its urgency).

TO: BHurley Kudos on that Generous offer(s)! I gonna be in Sevierville later this month. :DWhat else ya got?:D EDIT! Sorry I thought that previous post to this effect was lost. I am returning though! :>}}

JPG40504 wrote:Have you tried removing the set screws under the tie bar?

If you are 'lucky' they are there, and the 4 stripped ones do not penetrate the way tubes.

If not removal becomes quite difficult from your description(requires the use of screw extractors and/or drilling).

If the waytubes are spaced correctly by the broken/barred tie bar, then removal may not be 'required'(recommended though). That then becomes a matter of your choice.

Perhaps that 'decision' is best delayed until you are more comfortable with the task(and have determined its urgency).

TO: BHurley Kudos on that Generous offer(s)! I gonna be in Sevierville later this month. :DWhat else ya got?:D EDIT! Sorry I thought that previous post to this effect was lost. I am returning though! :>}}

I have a feeling I am in the unlucky category. I can look into the way tubes and see the lower portions of the rusted screws. I will take a few pics and upload later. I am flying solo this weekend with our 2 and 4 y/o kids. Wife is out of town. So I will be lucky to pass by the SS to say hello. I do want to change it out. So maybe once I get the photos, you can give me some ideas. Thanks!

copperhill wrote:I have a feeling I am in the unlucky category. I can look into the way tubes and see the lower portions of the rusted screws. I will take a few pics and upload later. I am flying solo this weekend with our 2 and 4 y/o kids. Wife is out of town. So I will be lucky to pass by the SS to say hello. I do want to change it out. So maybe once I get the photos, you can give me some ideas. Thanks!

Soak the screws with a penetrant(liquid wrench/kerosene/kroil/pb blaster)[whatever is handy - not wd-40!] and let them soak this weekend. Replentish the stuff occasionally.

How far into the way tube center do they protrude? What kind of head did the screws have?

If they were socket headed screws, drilling(with or without an 'easyout') may be the solution if the screws are not hardened.

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Another wild tip: the recent '59 headstock I reworked had stubborn rusty Motor screws in the motor pan. I was getting ready to grind slots in them since the Philips screwdriver wasn't working at all. Then I happened to hit one of the screw-heads from the side with a cold chisel, and it freed up. All 4 came out this way.

Thanks Guys. I am going to try your suggestions and see if I can get them to budge. If not we can re-evaluate.