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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:24 am
by JPG
ryanbp01 wrote:Maybe I missed something in earlier threads, but I'm going to ask it anyway: 1) If you have a Mark V, why would you need a Mark VII and 2) Why isn't the Mark VII listed as being marketed again by Shopsmith on their website?
BPR
The VII has under the table shaping(permitted by the reversing motor and the dual pivot capability).[same as original VII]. It ends up being higher than the original since the pivoting is done at the ends. Any other 'advantages'? I dunno!
Why no marketing? Perhaps they are so tied up with the Power Pro upgrades that they feel they cannot do both(at least for the time being). They obviously will respond to a request for a new machine. It is possible that the VII is the only new model currently being produced.
Wonder about lift assist both directions?:D
Pictures
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:49 pm
by bstadtler
Here are some pictures
One More
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:51 pm
by bstadtler
Here is one more let me know if you need different angles
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:16 pm
by SDSSmith
bstadtler wrote:Here is one more let me know if you need different angles
How about a shot of the table rotated 90 degrees clockwise? And, the machine in the vertical position for under table shaping (right side raised up)? Close up shot of either arm that rotates to put machine in vertical mode.
Thanks in advance.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:18 pm
by JPG
bstadtler wrote:Here is one more let me know if you need different angles
1) Head on shot of the trunion, showing the angle graduations.
2) A shot of the left end with it raised to vertical.(both the 'tie rod' piece and the bench tube end casting).
3) Details of the securing and releasing mechanism.
4,5) Assuming it does tilt the opposite direction, a similar set of pix of the right 'end'.
This will either lead to more questions/requests for pix, or stop the speculation completely.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:31 pm
by JPG
Closer look at the initial pix reveals:
Rack teeth on only the 'normal' side of the table support tubes.
Stops at 90 and 45 degree same as 'normal' 520.
Trunion lock in same location as 'normal' 520.
Must conclude 90 degree right rotation not possible = under table shaping not possible with 'normal' table.
Table appears to be std 520 issue.
This leads to the ??? of why refer to it as a VII? Runs in reverse???
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:30 pm
by heathicus
JPG40504 wrote:Table appears to be std 520 issue.
This leads to the ??? of why refer to it as a VII? Runs in reverse???
And why the ability to pivot on the left side if the table can't even be used?
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:42 pm
by JPG
heathicus wrote:And why the ability to pivot on the left side if the table can't even be used?
Ah! But that is something we have assumed/guessed from a very poor pix(video).
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:29 am
by damagi
If the table is no different (which seem like the case based on the photos), then it seems like getting a pivoting end off of ebay would put you most of the way there...except for figuring out an easier way to remove the pivot bar. In fact, from examining the photo it looks like the existing ones could be modified to provide that functionality...hmm =)
One thing to know would be whether the bench tubes or way tubes are longer/shorter than normal.
Also - a shot of the ends proped up a little would be great.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:29 am
by damagi
If the table is no different (which seem like the case based on the photos), then it seems like getting a pivoting end off of ebay would put you most of the way there...except for figuring out an easier way to remove the pivot bar. In fact, from examining the photo it looks like the existing ones could be modified to provide that functionality...hmm =)
One thing to know would be whether the bench tubes or way tubes are longer/shorter than normal.
Also - a shot of the ends proped up a little would be great.
