Page 4 of 5

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:03 am
by damagi
It was interesting to see how they chose to mount the base. They used washers and went through the clearance holes for the extension table, then used bolts and washers on the other end going through the holes where most folks store their allen wrench.

Image

Note in the lower right corner the mounting strategy. This means you can't drop the table any lower than that - ie: no short horizontal boring.

Also of note, in the photo they changed how the table was mounted. It appears they switched from using all 4 posts on the extension table to just using two. Clearly this could make you subject to out-of-square issues. Then again, this may be just a weird camera angle.

Image

That photo shows the table with all four posts in use...perhaps flipping it around would solve the issue they were seeing that drove the use of only two mounting posts.
If you look carefully in the lower left you see the bolt heads going through the allen wrench holes.

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:46 pm
by JPG
damagi wrote:It was interesting to see how they chose to mount the base. They used washers and went through the clearance holes for the extension table, then used bolts and washers on the other end going through the holes where most folks store their allen wrench.

Image

Note in the lower right corner the mounting strategy. This means you can't drop the table any lower than that - ie: no short horizontal boring. Would not clearance holes in the bench board alleviate that? A different way to secure the base would be required(a pair of holes like the other end etc.)?

Also of note, in the photo they changed how the table was mounted. It appears they switched from using all 4 posts on the extension table to just using two. Clearly this could make you subject to out-of-square issues. The base end could be aligned to eliminate that. Then again, this may be just a weird camera angle. I think that be so.

Image

That photo shows the table with all four posts in use...perhaps flipping it around would solve the issue they were seeing that drove the use of only two mounting posts.
If you look carefully in the lower left you see the bolt heads going through the allen wrench holes.

See de blue above!

I think they once again shot themselves in der foot during a photo shoot!:rolleyes:

Obviously the table was reversed between the two pix.

I understand a reluctance on their part(and current owners) to drill large holes in the end casting where stress was not anticipated when designing it. A nesting block as has been previously posted would be my choice.* The block could include clearance holes for the table posts. That previous post was made to show how to lower the SS by using a lower bench, but it included the bench tubes(IIRC). IMHO they would be prudent here as well as providing an alternative mounting scheme(u bolts) and retaining the tool kit storage hole:D. * See post 35 below!

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:53 pm
by billmayo
I found you could use a long 3/8" threaded rod in place of the bolts that holds the bench tubes to mount the headrest and base to a platform. You could use the the threaded rod with or without the bench tubes. I would use a nut to lock the rod in the headrest and base. I agree that drilling in the headrest, base or base arm is not a good idea as the aluminum metal is very thin in places and can break around holes when under pressure. I always reinforced any area where I drilled holes on these units. This is my construction Shopsmith I built in 2005 to add an addition to our home. The wooden frame with wheels are available for free to anyone stopping by to pickit up. I cannot just scrap this frame but it does take up room in my garage.
[ATTACH]22192[/ATTACH]

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:17 pm
by Ed in Tampa
I opened a Shop Deputy thread under Wood Working Tools Review subtopic

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:42 pm
by JPG
billmayo wrote:I found you could use a long 3/8" threaded rod in place of the bolts that holds the bench tubes to mount the headrest and base to a platform. You could use the the threaded rod with or without the bench tubes. I would use a nut to lock the rod in the headrest and base. I agree that drilling in the headrest, base or base arm is not a good idea as the aluminum metal is very thin in places and can break around holes when under pressure. I always reinforced any area where I drilled holes on these units. This is my construction Shopsmith I built in 2005 to add an addition to our home. The wooden frame with wheels are available for free to anyone stopping by to pickit up. I cannot just scrap this frame but it does take up room in my garage.
[ATTACH]22192[/ATTACH]
DUHHHH!!!!

The bench tube clamp tapped holes of course!!!:cool: I would add a spacer to prevent the casting deforming.

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:20 am
by damagi
JPG40504 wrote:DUHHHH!!!!

The bench tube clamp tapped holes of course!!!:cool: I would add a spacer to prevent the casting deforming.
Yup, that was my thought...Either ship or have folks cut a spacer, then use threaded rod and bolts to attach to the wooden base. That would at least give you a few more inches for the accessory table. Whether or not that's sufficient to get the table low enough to be interesting is a different story for sure.

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:22 am
by billmayo
damagi wrote:Yup, that was my thought...Either ship or have folks cut a spacer, then use threaded rod and bolts to attach to the wooden base. That would at least give you a few more inches for the accessory table. Whether or not that's sufficient to get the table low enough to be interesting is a different story for sure.
I had to drill 1 1/2" holes into the wood platform at each end under the extension table and SPT support tube holes located in the base arm and headrest. The tube holes are 1" but I went bigger at 1 1/2" so my measurement did not have to be exact. The 3/8" long threaded rods is all you need to hold the base and headrest to whatever platform you are using. No holes were drilled in the base or headrest. The base and headrest I used came from a Shopsmith that was not secured on the back of a pickup truck and fell off. Most of the leg bolt holes in the base and headrest were broken out so this was the only solution for these parts. You could use one or more wooden spacers (2X12) under the base and headrest if the Shopsmith is setting too low on whatever platform you are using.

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:45 pm
by JPG
I can see a bunch of home grown benches made to a owner's height preference etc. as a result of the 'deputy'.:cool: The seed has done been planted in fertile soil!;)

Gee just like in the 10E/ER days.:D

shorty

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:04 pm
by alisfair
have opportunity to purchase a bowl lathe. Is that a shorty? He wants 250 for it and looks decent shape. What do you think?

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:12 pm
by beeg
What brand of bowl lathe? Any pics?