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Here is what I was told. I'll explain it in math terms:
Metal surface + wood surface = Paste Wax
Metal surface + Metal surface = Top Cote
Hope this helps!
BPR
I was looking at an old thread that someone posted to today. It reaffirms my memory that at a TA that I went to, put on by Rick Davis, he suggested metal to metal contact should have paste wax and metal to wood contact should use TopCote, although, in post 18 of this thread it was discussed that TopCote IS wax. Check post 8 of this thread: https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=156ryanbp01 wrote:That's what I was told at the Academy session I attended with Mike Cobb. The ratiuonale was that Top Cote may leave a residue onto some woods that may adversely affect the final finish where paste wax would not.
BPR
It seems that the newer formulas are not the same: Some kind of restriction or requirement that changed the properties of the wax to not be as desirable as the "original" formula's were.Use Butcher's Wax if you want but buff it out. Enough said!dusty wrote:Interesting comments. But I am not a believer. I have been using wax, exclusively, for too long without having any ill effects. I believe the problem (if there is a problem) is too much of a good thing.
If wax is in fact migrating to the wood, I contend that the wax was not properly applied and buffed. It must be put on sparingly, allowed to set and then buffed out. If that is done, I believe there will be no migration.
Occasionally, I put on wax and later find that I have wax deposits in the groves of my table top. If this happens and wood is then cut problems may well occur. Using top-cote eliminates the problem but wax was not the problem as is being stated here. Improper application is the problem.
I am a hard sell and will continue to wax.
I remember Nick saying in one of the Sawdust sessions that the newer formulas of paste wax have to include a non-skid agent. Johnson's Paste Wax (original formula) was grandfathered in and didn't have to change their formula.a1gutterman wrote:Welcome to the forum chrispitude! I can not be certain, but after looking at the site that your link sent me to, I would guess that, if they still use their original recipe from 1880, like Johnson's still uses their original one, that Butchers Wax is a-ok.
Hi Len,Len wrote:Crhispitude looks like he's got a winner, but for $11.99?
As long as it is clear paste and not made with silicone, it's OK.
BTW, when are they delivering that 520 upgrade? I've saved my pennies and am seriously considering it.