Danger!

[dusty]

So now I'm wondering what those people who got their units "fixed" with "Wes's Sessions" reprogramming the PP are gonna do. Has someone told them that there is a mini set screw down in the bowels of the PP headstock that is loose?

(Or did the program patch tighten the screw?)

]that![/I]

What if I hadn't?

Remember, be cool. Think about this. Bite your lip.

If units were "fixed" by employing Wes's program changes, there is no loose screw.

If everything else discussed has been done to your machine except that screw, I'd suggest you get the right allen wrench and go tighten that screw.

Then, if the problem remains, I'd get back to a fundamental bandsaw (on the left) configuration (with no saw arbor), tighten all of the potential problem setscrews and start the complaint process all over with Shopsmith.

Forget about what has already passed and go from here.

Call Customer Service (1-800-543-7586 or 1-800-762-7555) and this time be assertive in extablishing contact with someone who can help fix the problem.

This time, I believe that the ladies in Customer Service are not going to be your solution. You probably need no-one other than Wes or Jim (the man) McCann.

You are in Hawaii and they are in Ohio. The zone differences are going to be an issue. If this were me, I'd take a nap and meet them on their schedule. Be prepared so that when they call you at that predetermined time - you can talk for hours. In other words, pack a lunch.

Good luck

[billmayo]

Remember, be cool. Think about this. Bite your lip.

If units were "fixed" by employing Wes's program changes, there is no loose screw.

If everything else discussed has been done to your machine except that screw, I'd suggest you get the right allen wrench and go tighten that screw.

Then, if the problem remains, I'd get back to a fundamental bandsaw (on the left) configuration (with no saw arbor), tighten all of the potential problem setscrews and start the complaint process all over with Shopsmith.

Forget about what has already passed and go from here.

Call Customer Service (1-800-543-7586 or 1-800-762-7555) and this time be assertive in extablishing contact with someone who can help fix the problem.

This time, I believe that the ladies in Customer Service are not going to be your solution. You probably need no-one other than Wes or Jim (the man) McCann.

You are in Hawaii and they are in Ohio. The zone differences are going to be an issue. If this were me, I'd take a nap and meet them on their schedule. Be prepared so that when they call you at that predetermined time - you can talk for hours. In other words, pack a lunch.

Good luck

Outstanding advise. Patience is always very difficult in todays high speed world. I am thankful that Shopsmith is still able to offer products, parts and service with a very limited amount of people and still stay in business. The engineering for the PowerPro is like a light year ahead of what other woodworking companies are offering. The DVR motor is a very recent motor product to be offered on the open market that is controlled by a computer. There is always a learning period needed for any break through product.

[JPG]

Outstanding advise. Patience is always very difficult in todays high speed world. I am thankful that Shopsmith is still able to offer products, parts and service with a very limited amount of people and still stay in business. The engineering for the PowerPro is like a light year ahead of what other woodworking companies are offering. The DVR motor is a very recent motor product to be offered on the open market that is controlled by a computer. There is always a learning period needed for any break through product.

And for sure using one for multi-functional use(gross load variations) is really climbing out on the development limb!

BTW anyone else notice that those promotional videos never show 'him', always Linda or Jan?:D

[greitz]

Charlese- I seem to remember that you also had an issue with a loose-fitting plastic coupler to the bandsaw causing problems with the PowerPro.

Has that potential issue been eliminated as a source of keakap's PowerPro problems?

Gary

[charlese]

Charlese- I seem to remember that you also had an issue with a loose-fitting plastic coupler to the bandsaw causing problems with the PowerPro.

Has that potential issue been eliminated as a source of keakap's PowerPro problems?

Gary

Good memory, Gary!:D Yes, that issue has been eliminated. Here's what I did and still kept my favorite loose fitting plastic coupler. -- I wrote the word "loose" on each end of that coupler with an indelible sharpie. Luckily I had another tight one that was stored and hardly used. Since then I purchased a couple more on a Shopsmith sale including new hubs.

I still use my favorite, "loose" coupler for belt sander and jointer. That reminds me - In the configuration I'm now using (Jointer attached and saw blade on) I'm using the "LOOSE" coupler. Yep - the issues with the bandsaw are ONLY with the bandsaw.

[dusty]

Good memory, Gary!:D Yes, that issue has been eliminated. Here's what I did and still kept my favorite loose fitting plastic coupler. -- I wrote the word "loose" on each end of that coupler with an indelible sharpie. Luckily I had another tight one that was stored and hardly used. Since then I purchased a couple more on a Shopsmith sale including new hubs.

I still use my favorite, "loose" coupler for belt sander and jointer. That reminds me - In the configuration I'm now using (Jointer attached and saw blade on) I'm using the "LOOSE" coupler. Yep - the issues with the bandsaw are ONLY with the bandsaw.

Was the fix to simply replace the coupler or was there also a firmware tweak involved?

[JPG]

Good memory, Gary!:D Yes, that issue has been eliminated. Here's what I did and still kept my favorite loose fitting plastic coupler. -- I wrote the word "loose" on each end of that coupler with an indelible sharpie. Luckily I had another tight one that was stored and hardly used. Since then I purchased a couple more on a Shopsmith sale including new hubs.

I still use my favorite, "loose" coupler for belt sander and jointer. That reminds me - In the configuration I'm now using (Jointer attached and saw blade on) I'm using the "LOOSE" coupler. Yep - the issues with the bandsaw are ONLY with the bandsaw.

I have to conclude that all the rattling, screw loosening activity is the result of having almost no drag(mechanical load), especially when braking to a stop.

Sounds like SS needs to create a 'prony brake' attachment for the band saw!:D

[JPG]

Was the fix to simply replace the coupler or was there also a firmware tweak involved?

As I recall, it also involved a trip to Dayton!

[charlese]

I have to conclude that all the rattling, screw loosening activity is the result of having almost no drag(mechanical load), especially when braking to a stop.

Sounds like SS needs to create a 'prony brake' attachment for the band saw!:D

Might be a good idea!:D Got an idea that I'll try! Since the PowerPro senses the load immediately when started, the drag will have to be present upon pushing the start button.

[JPG]

Might be a good idea!:D Got an idea that I'll try! Since the PowerPro senses the load immediately when started, the drag will have to be present upon pushing the start button.

Since the BS shaft is so long, adding a pulley is Possible and Simple. Add a friction thingy above the pulley(dead weight will work) and you got it! No belts or springs or screws needed.