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ERLover wrote:@JPG, Holman, that is where you went to HS!! Big reunion last fall, this spring??

Nope, wrong county.

The SS was in Holman.

Grade school in La Crosse though.

@ JPG, always right/correct and the last word!!!!!

I know I did the game with you on it, I cant remember with out a search, which school and where around there? Dont make me beg!!!

wrmnfzy wrote:They would be if they had constructive notice, meaning they knew or should have known that the tree was defective in some manner. If it was defective, rotten or in some other way not healthy.

Who is the judge of that?
I know, I dated a lady, her neighbor across the street had a rotten tree that may fall on her property and block the entrance to the Cul de Sac with about 5-7 homes in it, she called the City inspector, and he made her take it down, under the rule, if it falls and blocks the entrance to the Cull du Sac and other homes in there, EMS/Fire could not get in a timely basis.

ERLover wrote:

wrmnfzy wrote:They would be if they had constructive notice, meaning they knew or should have known that the tree was defective in some manner. If it was defective, rotten or in some other way not healthy.

Who is the judge of that?
I know, I dated a lady, her neighbor across the street had a rotten tree that may fall on her property and block the entrance to the Cul de Sac with about 5-7 homes in it, she called the City inspector, and he made her take it down, under the rule, if it falls and blocks the entrance to the Cull du Sac and other homes in there, EMS/Fire could not get in a timely basis.

A large tree branch fell across the street blocking all traffic.

City responded with chain saws etc. quite promptly.

About 1 1/2 foot diameter from about 40 feet up. ELM.

Act of God. Both as to the tree and the responders.

Only damage was a rear view mirror on a car parked 'across' the street.

Insurance claim? Likely less than deductible anyway.

OHHHH I almost fergit! The middle of the branch fell onto a passing van. Stopped it in it's tracks. Bet that exceeded deductible!

wrmnfzy wrote:The land owner is not responsible for an act of God. I have been a catastrophe adjuster for over 30 years and have handled many. As I stated before the tree would have had to have had a defect and the owner would have had to have known or should have known for him to be liable.

A renter of the house immediately behind the tree indicated that he's been asking the marina owner to do something about the trees for about a decade. Just a week before it came crashing down, the fellow said something about it again. However, our rental agreement very specifically absolves the marina owner of liability for damages. I'm not sure how that works when there's demonstrable negligence, but I suspect only the lawyers would win if it ended up in court. The self-steering mechanism that used to be on the back of the sailboat that got hit is an expensive piece of stainless tubing...$5k to replace just that, plus a busted teak toe rail and safety rail stanchion. It'll be interesting to see who ends up paying.

Speaking of safety rail stanchions, I'm working on getting rub rails and safety rail stanchions installed. All of these are essential, must-do items before the boat can splash or even be exposed to water, since they all involve holes on the outside of the boat. As an added benefit, each little bit makes the boat just a bit more sparkly! I started on the worst of the safety rail stanchions last week, sanding them with 150 grit to get rid of gouges, nasty pits, and surface rust, then progressing up through 220, 400, 600, 1000, 1200, and finally 1500 grit paper. You wanna talk about tedious? Lemme tell ya about tedious. But by the end of the day, even the nastiest tube was looking pretty good.

1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: Refurbishing Stainless Stanchions

Cheers.
Q

Hey Q, those stanchions look a lot like Shopsmith way tubes. Around here, we polish those by chucking them up in another Shopsmith, and use roller wheels (or even just a hole in a piece of plywood) mounted to the aux. table to support the outboard end. Then the headstock does all the hard work. All you have to do is hold a sanding pad against the tube, or a buffer if polishing.

You are right on a couple points the most important is the lawyers always win. The fact that the marina had a disclaimer in the lease for damage does not necessarily absolve them from liability. Unfortunately the only way to challenge that is with a lawyer. This is where you must way the cost of the lawyer vs the amount of recovery and whether or not the recovery can include attorney fees. Good luck!

Thanks, BuckeyeDennis, but I think I'd spend more time and money buying the Shopsmith parts and setting up each one than just rolling 'em back and forth on the pine boards. Plus, I'm using wet sandpaper...my ol' SS has enough surface rust on it already!

On the one hand, polishing stainless is a job that gives pretty instant gratification. On the other, this boat's got a lot of stainless bits and pieces, which makes polishing a tedious job that just keeps going and going. This time around, I worked on the stainless bilge vent scoops.

1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: Polishing Still More Stainless

Cheers,
Q

Before


After

The boatyard cleared out all of the old trees near the tent. It's a lot brighter inside the tent without that big old maple outside. I've got the glass installed in 9 out of the 14 portholes, but my painter has suddenly gone missing. This is bad news, since my v-berth head isn't painted yet. So I'm still wailing away on stainless. It's tedious work, but the results at the end of each day are worth it.

1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: Polishing Even More Stainless

Cheers,
Q