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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:31 pm
by mickyd
The next project MAY be a pair of these louver doors. Louvers don't move but you can see through them. Would get some more major brownie points with SWMBO. She had purchased a set for her office closet door and they cost her $150 for two 24" x 80". We have another closet she wanted to also buy a set for that measures 54" x 96". That put it into custom build size so I figured it may be worth giving it a try. I'd have to reverse engineer since there are no plans. I'll decide this week. So what do you think on a difficulty level?? 1 easy 5 hard
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:54 pm
by lv2wdwrk
mickyd wrote:The next project MAY be a pair of these louver doors. Louvers don't move but you can see through them. Would get some more major brownie points with SWMBO. She had purchased a set for her office closet door and they cost her $150 for two 24" x 80". We have another closet she wanted to also buy a set for that measures 54" x 96". That put it into custom build size so I figured it may be worth giving it a try. I'd have to reverse engineer since there are no plans. I'll decide this week. So what do you think on a difficulty level?? 1 easy 5 hard
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:12 pm
by rkh2
Great finished project Mike. Been watching your posts as the project went along from beginning to end. Thanks for posting all the pictures of the different steps. Now you can enjoy them as you relax a little. Thumbs Up!!
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:19 pm
by shipwright
For an "official pretty darn good woodworker" (herinafter OPDGWW) like yourself, Mike, I'd say it's about a 3 out of five. I have done several for yacht interiors and can tell you that they are, as are most all woodworking projects, simply a series of steps and in the case of these type of doors none of those steps is beyond the capabilities that you have already demonstrated. I also applaud you for the decision to "explore and design" for yourself. When you finally succeed the feeling of accomplishment will be (deservedly) that much greater than from following someone else's plans. Good luck, but more importantly, have fun.
Paul M
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:36 pm
by JPG
PTL! They be DONE! At $0.05 per hour, how much did they cost?:D
The things learned, Priceless!
The satisfaction acquired - only you know!
Shutters - You will get very tired of making the 'louvers'. The raised panel lower portion will be an education.
Lotsa opportunities for goof ups.
Will take more raw material than you would think at first.
A bandsaw would make resawing the louvers less difficult(An excuse/reason to go get one!:D).
At the rate of the lanterns, you should get them finished by 2020!;)
Using your 1-5 scale, a 3.5! A 5 would be something Charlese or Shipwright (and others) would take on!
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:52 pm
by mbcabinetmaker
Great job Mike. I knew they would turn out perfect as meticulous as you are.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:08 pm
by etc92guy
Congratulations Mike!!!! A superb effort and product.
As far as the louvered doors, if you don't need air flow, you might want to pick this up for your router....
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page ... ter=louver
Been watching it since it came out and waiting for a review......now it's your turn.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:56 pm
by horologist
The new water heater will be installed on Monday. When I asked the plumber about a drain pan, he said these are required. In all the damage was minor, just a serious nuisance.
Better late than never.... The finished product looks great perhaps some of this will help on your next batch.
The bench block is a simple thing to make and the following photos should give enough info to make one. It is one of the handiest tools in my shop.
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The surface you clamp it to should be pretty high. My bench is 37" high, this puts it in your precision working range. Magnification is also helpful, I find myself using my Optivisor more and more.
The saw should be held so the blade is vertical and the work is held down with your free hand, assuming it isn't holding a camera at the time.
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An old project shown with a few files. It is hard to have too many small files! The box with the old Nicholson escapement files is a favorite.
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Saw frames come in all sizes. Technically the long one in the back isn't a saw but it arrived today and I had to include it.
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The frames with the deeper throat allow you to cut larger items but are not as good for maintaining proper blade tension.
Some helpful points, many apply equally well to hand or power saws.
1. Keep in mind where your fingers are, even though hand powered these saws can give a nasty cut very quickly. I learned this lesson once after a particularly long sawing session.
2. Use steady strokes and let the blade do the work. Make sure the blade is moving any time you are attempting to change blade direction. Heavier blades are more forgiving but the fine ones will snap every time. My finest blades are about 0.008" thick.
3. If you have to make a long cut it is a good idea to make radial relief cuts so the waste can fall away in smaller bits. Attempting to back a blade out of a long cut is a sure fire way to break a blade.
4. There are people who say it is vital to lubricate the blade with bees wax, I have tried this and see no difference in cutting ability or blade life. If you are using the wax to cut something that has a paper template then it tends to stain the paper as you cut, making the line hard to see.
5. Good blade tension is important, it should make a nice "ping" when you pluck the blade.
6. High quality blades are much less expensive than cheap blades.
No doubt I have missed a few but this should give you a start.
Troy
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:31 am
by mickyd
I wouldn't feel right closing out my candle lantern project without posting the stats for material usage and overall cost.
I started out with 2 B.F. (based on ACTUAL lumber dimensions) of African Mahogany (aka sepele). I had 4 nice left over 'scrap' 1 x 4 x 8 flooring pieces courtesy
mbcabinatmaker along with a 1 x 8 x 32 board purchased at a local hardwood supplier.
I kept all scrap as I went along. The photo below shows what was left over in the end.
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The 'waste' weighed just shy of 2-1/2 lbs. Based on the pounds per B.F. info provided on
Nick's website, that means I had about 1 B.F. left over.
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ACTUAL material used was about 1 B.F. (works out to a 50% waste factor). That
on-line board foot calculator I used worked great. Had I entered
50% waste vs. 20%, it would have estimated exactly.
Total wood expense.....2.5 B.F. (nominal). x $7.30 / B.F. = $14.
Copper motifs required a 10" x 4" x .025" sheet of copper shim stock.......$10
Spectrum cord glass $17. (Had to buy $50 worth to meet order minimum, enough for 4 sets).
Grand total (excluding labor)....$41.
Grand total (including labor)......$1500
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:09 am
by charlese
Sorry, Mike! I'm a little confused!
If I add the 2 board feet plus the five "scrap" pieces (4 ea at 1x4x8 and another piece measuring 1x8x32) This seems to me to be approx. 6.5 board feet.
Where is the rest of the wood?