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Ed in Tampa wrote: 3: no real benefit other than a 30 second decease in boot up time.

I found out how to put hibernate back in yesterday and then saw your message, it turns out the system boots faster than it resumes.

paulmcohen wrote:Where is the start button!!

Paul, this may help: http://cnettv.cnet.com/bring-start-menu ... 34539.html

What I don't understand and sorta get a chuckle over is "Why upgrade if you prefer the old options"? Make a decision. Do I prefer the new features enough to give up those features that I will lose? That is a simple yes or no.

Over the years, I have developed the opinion that messing with Microsoft by trying to over ride their design features with plugins and third party patches is not a good idea.

Dusty, these little tools are for the early adopters, on the bleeding edge, blazing the trail for us who follow later. I just recently started using Windows 7 and love it, but I was firmly planted in XP Pro long after 7 came out. And I stayed with Win98 long after XP Pro came out, etc.

tomsalwasser wrote:Dusty, these little tools are for the early adopters, on the bleeding edge, blazing the trail for us who follow later. I just recently started using Windows 7 and love it, but I was firmly planted in XP Pro long after 7 came out. And I stayed with Win98 long after XP Pro came out, etc.

I maintain two frequently used work stations. One operates on Windows 7 and the other on XP. The XP machine is in my shop while the W7 machine is in the house (my office).

Nearly all of my wood working related stuff is on the XP machine.

The only reason why I have W7 is the XP running on the other machine was a bootleg copy. When I lost the HD on that machine, I had no OS so I upgraded to W7. If I could have purchased a legal copy of XP I would have.

My copy of XP is on the hard drive of a laptop that got fried by lightning (was still on dial-up) coming in on the phone line while I was using it. It was one of those "bolt from the blue" things. A storm had passed and the radar was clear. It sure woke me up.
The guy at the local geek place said that he thought all it damaged was the modem (part of the motherboard, naturally) which was visibly fried and that if he cut that part away that "maybe" it would boot up and work with an external modem. The price involved was too high for "maybe"...
I bought an external adapter USB case for the hard drive from CompUSA for about $10 and have just used it as an extra drive for storing pictures and some third generation back up stuff. I haven't tried to do it but I'm pretty sure that I can reset my desktop boot settings and just boot from that drive. I also have the restore disk here someplace if I can find it.

My old iMAC G3 is currently the one in the wood shop. I throw an old piece of bed-sheet over it if I'm making dust. Right now it is just sitting there displaying a Xmas picture.


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That is why I now unplug the phone line from my computer when I'm not online. I have replaced four modems in the past couple of years due to lightening strikes in the area. I even fried a couple of surge protectors that you plug your phone line through for protection. I have found that they do not work worth squat to protect surges through the phone line.

tomsalwasser wrote:Paul, this may help: http://cnettv.cnet.com/bring-start-menu-back-windows-8/9742-1_53-50134539.html

Thanks I love it.

Computer was having a lot of "Not Responding" crashes after being reloaded from the HP HD backup. System was reloaded in an attempt to get rid of Windows Outlook after POP was banished and it wouldn't interface w/email in from CL. The Windows Media Center didn't reload correctly from HP HD backup and it would crash computer when I tried to use it to run movies. I THOUGHT THAT THE HARDWARE WAS FAILING and started looking for a desktop replacement.

I had an upgrade disk, from XP to Vista, installed it, but there was no Windows Media Center Upgrade (I assumed it would still crash), so upgrade was of ?able value. When surfing, I found a free Windows Media Center App for Window 8 , so $40 upgrade, and thought I'd try it for 3 months tech support. Fix it or !@#$%^&*( it.

Upgrade took at least 8 hours to download and install( no CD's, No Mailing). Make recovery disks for access passwords and system in Feb before Tech support runs out. Really frustrating initially, but I did find a WRENCH, that switches Windows 8 display to DESKTOP mode. That helps a lot because now have address bar and multiple windows. No touch screen, just mouse and wheel. Now I can kill open screens by dragging (even if the APP doesn't follow) to the bottom of the screen or clicking the X in the corner of the screen in desktop mode. Nothing more dangerous than a programmer with a tool, screwdriver, wrench.

Still relearning, but haven't had " Not Responding" freezes, after 2 1/2 years of putting up w/that crap on the same olde , 1997, hardware. Did get one app not responding , reloading app, w/Windows 8, but system didn't freeze. Haven't gotten around to test Windows Media Center, the TV tuner, printing, or try to get some the help. Haven't tried selecting the boot to the olde operating system which is an option at boot up. Did make some progress w/Google Sketchup and on borrowing ebooks from Library (Yeah, Windows 8 for Dummies!).

Could promise to make an update, but that gets I the way of documenting the Grinding Jig for SS.

I'm pretty happy with windows 8. I'm going to update my laptop later this week or early next week. The laptop is running windows 7 and is a pretty generic install unlike the custom install on my main machine. I think I can install right on top of the old system.

The only out standing issue I have is that I can't install my scanner. No windows 8 drivers and it doesn't look the the company is going to fix that. Well I wanted a new scanner anyway so I'll start saving up.

If you are into computers this windows8 stuff is a walk in the park.


Ed