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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:05 pm
by jdxprs
here is a youtube video of my machine? anyone feel like watching and telling me what parts im missing???

http://youtu.be/TtX5c58XzE4

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:56 am
by jdxprs
has anyone watched my youtube video?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:28 am
by pennview
For the sawing function, you are missing the rip fence and the upper and lower saw guards.
For the lathe function, you are missing the tailstock eccentric, as well as the drive center and the dead or live center that will fit into the tailstock eccentric.
You are missing the drill chuck and key.
You are missing the 12" sanding disk.
Also, it's nice to have the casters attached to the legs.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:45 am
by dgale
I just watched it. Your SS looks like it's in pretty good shape for it's age - the way and bench tubes could use a bit of rust removal (but they look way better than most I've seen on used machines from that age) and then put a coat of Johnson's Paste Wax or Minwax Paste Finishing Wax on them and give them a good buffing and they are smooth and the headstock and carriages glide like butter. Also do the same wax and buff job to the main table and the extension table so wood glides smoothly when you're working. Just make sure to buff off any excess wax so you don't leave any residue on your projects.

As far as what you're missing, you need the upper and lower saw guards, a rip fence, sanding disc(s) and arbor(s), and a drill chuck and key. Also, for using the lathe, your tailstock is missing the eccentric center that holds the tailstock arbor - used tailstocks that have the center are readily available on E-Bay for pretty cheap...I'm not sure if you can buy the center itself directly from SS anymore (?). In addition for the lathe spindle turning, you'll need a drive center (attaches to the headstock) and either a live center or cup center that inserts into the eccentric center in your tailstock. You'll also want a face plate or two (they come in a few different sizes), and you'll need the tool rest and the "banjo arm" that connects to the sliding carriage. All of the above are readily available from SS, with the possible exception of the banjo arm, which you should be able to find on E-Bay fairly easily if SS doesn't have it.

Unless I'm forgetting something, that's pretty much it, other than a ton of accessories and optional special tools such as the bandsaw, jointer, jigsaw or scroll saw, strip sander, belt sander, biscuit joiner etc.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:52 pm
by jdxprs
dgale,

what do you think my shopsmith is worth as is? fwiw, it appears to run perfectly.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:13 pm
by dgale
jdxprs wrote:dgale,

what do you think my shopsmith is worth as is? fwiw, it appears to run perfectly.
In terms of what you could sell it for as is? Easy answer is "what the market will bear"...depends on where you live, how much interest there is within a reasonable drive to your location, and how flooded the Craig's List market is in your area with used Shopsmiths. All that being said, I'd guess your SS in existing condition might fetch ~$250-$400. Not very much but that's the reality of the used SS market these days (it's a buyers market). Bottom line is it looks to be in fairly good condition and a good candidate for someone who wants to restore a "Goldie", but with all the missing stuff, someone would be looking at spending probably at least $200-$400 to make it complete and usable. Others here are more knowledgable than I about the going rate for used SS, so hopefully they can weigh in as well.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:32 pm
by rpd
One thing to take into consideration is that parts sell at a premium compared to whole machines. If you have the room to do it consider just picking up the parts that you have an immediate need for right now, and then watch for a really good deal on a complete machine and share the missing bits between them.

For example my first 10er was very incomplete, missing the fence, miter gauge, drill chuck, sanding disk, lower saw guard, power cord and even the base. But for $40 how could I say no.:)

I made a base for it, cleaned it up an started getting missing parts on Ebay. One thing I was wanting was a speed changer which are fairly rare and sell for $100 to $200 plus shipping on Ebay

Then I found my second 10er for $75. It came with all the stock parts plus a speed changer, a jigsaw, a mortising attachment and one chisel, a shaper fence and one cutter, saw blades and arbor, two sets of dado blades and a wobble dado blade, miter gauge extension and stop rods etc. the proverbial box of goodies.

The other way to look at this is I got the speed changer for about half price and all the rest was a bonus.

So if you need a lot of parts it might be cheaper to buy a second unit that includes those parts and share them between the two as needed then to buy the parts individually.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:20 pm
by letterk
jdxprs wrote:dgale,

what do you think my shopsmith is worth as is? fwiw, it appears to run perfectly.
In my neck of the woods with the way they are selling I'd say $50 - $100. Machines that are 20-25 years newer and more complete aren't selling for $200-$250.

If you are looking to sell, you are better to get some use out of it.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:41 pm
by jdxprs

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:58 am
by dgale
No - that is for a model #510 or 520. I'm not that familiar with the Goldie to know if the Mark V 500 parts fir it (?) Others here will need to weigh in on this. Assuming so, this is the upgraded upper and lower saw guards that fit a 500:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shopsmith-Mark-V-500-See-Through-Blade-Guard-Upgraded-Lower-Guard-Kit-Nice-/181028050198?pt=Power_Tools&hash=item2a261cd516