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The stop collar controls the spacing between the table(by way of the support posts) and the carriage. This allows for precise depth of cut when in saw mode.

When in under table rout mode(vertical, table tilted horizontal), the stop collar would control the location of the table in/out horizontally relative to the bit. Since a fence would likely also be attached to the table, it would not move relative to the table, but relative to the bit. This may be useful to position the fence relative to the bit(in/out).

It would have no effect on 'depth of cut'. That will still only be done with the quill(or arbor).

A fine threaded adjustment controlling the headstock/carriage spacing would work. The stop collar will not fit onto the way tubes, but could act similarly to a screw jack between the headstock and the carriage.

JPG40504 wrote:The stop collar controls the spacing between the table(by way of the support posts) and the carriage. This allows for precise depth of cut when in saw mode.

When in under table rout mode(vertical, table tilted horizontal), the stop collar would control the location of the table in/out horizontally relative to the bit. Since a fence would likely also be attached to the table, it would not move relative to the table, but relative to the bit. This may be useful to position the fence relative to the bit(in/out).

It would have no effect on 'depth of cut'. That will still only be done with the quill(or arbor).

A fine threaded adjustment controlling the headstock/carriage spacing would work. The stop collar will not fit onto the way tubes, but could act similarly to a screw jack between the headstock and the carriage.

Now I am confused.

With a Mark 7, when set up for under table routing the bit is positioned by moving either the headstock (up or down) relative to the table. The table can also be moved up or down relative to the headstock either by using the quill or by moving the carriage up or down on the Way Tubes. The Adjustable Stop Collar could then facilitate fine tuning of the router bit depth of cut just as some of us use it to fine tune the fence in saw mode. Maybe Shopsmith will take the hint and make a Stop Collar that fits on the Ways.

Would it not. I am still confused but then I don't have a Mark 7.

http://www.shopsmith.com/markvsite/images/tilted_left_rl.jpg

I would get rid of that rip fence, however, in favor of a split fence when routing.

Actually, I don't think I would do this at all. The table can be relocated further away from the Way tubes but not by much (about 1 1/2"). There is about 7" MAXIMUM available between the router bit and the Way tubes.

dusty wrote:Now I am confused.

With a Mark 7, when set up for under table routing the bit is positioned by moving either the headstock (up or down) relative to the table. YES The table can also be moved up or down relative to the headstock either by using the quill YES or by moving the carriage up or down on the Table Bar and Tube Assembly. NO, it would move the table horiozontally The Adjustable Stop Collar, if mounted on a leg of the Table Tube and Bar Assembly, would facilitate fine tuning of the router bit depth of cut. NO - that would move the table horizontally(the SS is tilted to vertical)

Would it not. I am still confused but then I don't have a Mark 7.

The movement controlled by the stop collar is the same as a MV in drill press mode(table tilted parallel to the table posts, so the stop collar moves the table etc. horizontally, not towards/away from the headstock.

Yes, you caught my errors while I was correcting them. You are extremely good at finding and pointing out these things.

I guess that this is good because we don't want anyone other than myself to be confused.

dusty wrote:Yes, you caught my errors while I was correcting them. You are extremely good at finding and pointing out these things.

I guess that this is good because we don't want anyone other than myself to be confused.

So you realize I do read these posts with the purpose of possibly learning something new, so details are quite important to understanding. I am not 'correcting' with the intention of being judgemental, but rather to allow all of us to understand "correctly"(us includes me;)).

I'll strive to do better by reading what I write more carefully before I post. That should give you a great deal of relief.

dusty wrote:I'll strive to do better by reading what I write more carefully before I post. That should give you a great deal of relief.

Do you have any relief for old age?:D

JPG40504 wrote:Do you have any relief for old age?:D

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benush26 wrote:It's only temporary, but personally I date MUCH younger women! You all married folk will probably have to come up with a different solution!

I THINK 'IT' WILL WORK FOR US ALSO.


Haven't had a need for 'it' yet!:D

JPG40504 wrote:Do you have any relief for old age?:D

Yep! Relief comes by the belief that I will get older. It's always good to wake up in the morning.

Just always look forward to stuff to do mañana!.