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Ed in Tampa wrote:We don't know the rest of the story.

Think about it.

Ebola is suppose to be so contagious yet the woman the man was going to marry doesn't catch it from him. I assume they kissed each other, possibly had sexual relations and lived together for a few days. No out break yet Ebola is sweeping through villages in Africa like wild fire. How come????????

Ebola when first discovered was sun sensitive meaning the virus died when exposed to direct sunlight now it is known to survive 3-4 hours.

Why were the drugs from Canada refused?

Why is Ebola patented?

Why aren't our borders closed?

In Africa there are 20 nations that will not allow anyone from an infected country into their nation. Most of Europe has stopped travel yet the US remains wide open.

It is report that there are over 100 visas a day issued to come to America from the infected nation of Sierra Leon not to mention travelers carrying other countries passports that are traveling from infected nations.

Does any of this make sense?

This situation has existed for quite some time and yet there is no "outbreak" of ebola in this country. Just three cases, none of which are the result of all those travelers from Sierra Leon.

I don't know. Does all of that make sense? Maybe?.

Ebola has acted consistently with what we've been told. There's no need to subscribe to conspiracy theories to explain what's happened, or to undertake draconian policies that could very well undermine our fight against Ebola.

The way to eliminate Ebola in the US is to snuff it out in NW Africa--just as has been done in every other previous outbreak. Travel bans won't help for a variety of reasons.

Mark my words: there will be no Ebola outbreak in the US. We'll see more cases in the ones and twos, mostly among medical personnel (and I assume nurses more than doctors, since nurses are the ones who get down and dirty with the sickest among us.) But, there will be no large-scale outbreak among the general public. I trust you all to tell me when it's time to eat my words.

Therefore, I'm ashamed of politicians who are stoking fear among us. It's hurtful.

I won't be giving in to fear, and I hope no one else does, either. And get your flu shots.

davebodner wrote:Ebola has acted consistently with what we've been told. There's no need to subscribe to conspiracy theories to explain what's happened, or to undertake draconian policies that could very well undermine our fight against Ebola.

The way to eliminate Ebola in the US is to snuff it out in NW Africa--just as has been done in every other previous outbreak. Travel bans won't help for a variety of reasons.

Mark my words: there will be no Ebola outbreak in the US. We'll see more cases in the ones and twos, mostly among medical personnel (and I assume nurses more than doctors, since nurses are the ones who get down and dirty with the sickest among us.) But, there will be no large-scale outbreak among the general public. I trust you all to tell me when it's time to eat my words.

Therefore, I'm ashamed of politicians who are stoking fear among us. It's hurtful.

I won't be giving in to fear, and I hope no one else does, either. And get your flu shots.

I do hope thee is accurate!;)

davebodner wrote:Ebola has acted consistently with what we've been told. There's no need to subscribe to conspiracy theories to explain what's happened, or to undertake draconian policies that could very well undermine our fight against Ebola.

The way to eliminate Ebola in the US is to snuff it out in NW Africa--just as has been done in every other previous outbreak. Travel bans won't help for a variety of reasons.

Mark my words: there will be no Ebola outbreak in the US. We'll see more cases in the ones and twos, mostly among medical personnel (and I assume nurses more than doctors, since nurses are the ones who get down and dirty with the sickest among us.) But, there will be no large-scale outbreak among the general public. I trust you all to tell me when it's time to eat my words.

Therefore, I'm ashamed of politicians who are stoking fear among us. It's hurtful.

I won't be giving in to fear, and I hope no one else does, either. And get your flu shots.

If travel bans won't work why do 20 African countries have travel bans and the majority of Europe?

Why is it Ebola is spreading so rapidly in Sierra Leon but didn't here. Using the info we have been told about the spread of Ebola in the african nations all of patient X family should be infected and a high percentage of the plane passenger that flew with the nurse from Texas to Ohio and back.

I don't ascribe to fear nor am I a conspiracist but the Ebola cases here in the US isn't acting like we are told it does in Africa.

JPG wrote:How does one 'patent' a virus?

Human Ebola Virus Species and Compositions and Methods Thereof
US 20120251502 A1Abstract
Compositions and methods including and related to the Ebola Bundibugyo virus (EboBun) are provided. Compositions are provided that are operable as immunogens to elicit and immune response or protection from EboBun challenge in a subject such as a primate. Inventive methods are directed to detection and treatment of EboBun infection.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20120251502


While it is true that the CDC was given a patent in 2010 for the Ebola Bundibugyo virus (EboBun), the strain that is currently spreading is Zaire Ebola (EBOV).

David Sanders, professor of biological sciences at Purdue University and a leading Ebola researcher, told Newsmax Health that it is not uncommon for the government to patent microbes developed in their labs.

“The CDC does hold some patents on life forms, but it generally does this for the common good, so a commercial company can’t come along and patent it,” Sanders said. “The CDC lets researchers work with the strain without fees.” Sanders and some other experts have dismissed claims that the government would profit “in the billions” from a pandemic.

http://thegrio.com/2014/10/18/cdc-patent-ebola/


To answer your question I don't know you tell me.

Ed in Tampa wrote:If travel bans won't work why do 20 African countries have travel bans and the majority of Europe?

Why is it Ebola is spreading so rapidly in Sierra Leon but didn't here. Using the info we have been told about the spread of Ebola in the african nations all of patient X family should be infected and a high percentage of the plane passenger that flew with the nurse from Texas to Ohio and back.

I don't ascribe to fear nor am I a conspiracist but the Ebola cases here in the US isn't acting like we are told it does in Africa.

According to my non-expert understanding, Ebola isn't very communicative until the patient is really sick--or dead. Nurses cleaning patients and family members cleaning corpses before burial are exposed. That's why most family members, and the general public, don't get it.

In some good news, the Ebola outbreak is over in Nigeria and Senegal. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... e21159394/. They boosted surveillance at airports, but they never closed travel. If they can do it, so can we.

davebodner wrote:According to my non-expert understanding, Ebola isn't very communicative until the patient is really sick--or dead. Nurses cleaning patients and family members cleaning corpses before burial are exposed. That's why most family members, and the general public, don't get it.

In some good news, the Ebola outbreak is over in Nigeria and Senegal. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... e21159394/. They boosted surveillance at airports, but they never closed travel. If they can do it, so can we.

One more category at high risk would be mine, funeral directors. We have protective geer, and I would not be going out on a limb saying most of us would not know how to put it on. On a related note, the NFDA and CDC in their guidelines on handling remains for burial tell us to cremate or have a burial in a sealed casket. I hope they know sealed caskets are designed to vent outward to receive pressure. They keep stuff out, not in. Also, if the individual had either a pacemaker or defibrillator, they must be removed prior to cremation (they violently explode!) Not recommended for Ebola!

ChrisNeilan wrote:One more category at high risk would be mine, funeral directors. We have protective geer, and I would not be going out on a limb saying most of us would not know how to put it on...

Yow! You guys, too! I listened to a radio program about how hard it is to properly take off the protective gear. Something like 6 separate hand-washings are required each time. No wonder folks sometimes mess up.

Would body bags give any reasonable protection?

davebodner wrote:Yow! You guys, too! I listened to a radio program about how hard it is to properly take off the protective gear. Something like 6 separate hand-washings are required each time. No wonder folks sometimes mess up.

Would body bags give any reasonable protection?

We are told to use two. All well and good when we know what we are dealing with. Problem is, we quite often are not told of the cause of death prior to us getting a signed death certificate, and even then that could be a day or two later. Lots of things need to be tightened up. i could go on....

JPG wrote:Perhaps those folks in La are just being cautious.

How are they 'disposing' of remains in Liberia???

I heard they are shipping them in large paper bags to some site in Kentucky...