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Re: The usual noobie mistake -help please

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:47 pm
by ERLover
Back up. Let's keep this simple. Take it in as is. Let them struggle with the extra parts.

I think you will quickly find out if 'ss motor experience' is indeed a fact. ;)[/quote]

You are such a sweet heart JPG, but true. :cool:

Re: The usual noobie mistake -help please

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:25 pm
by retiredsoldier919
JPG wrote:
retiredsoldier919 wrote:
JPG wrote:You can help the motor shop by removing the floating sheave/spring etc. Not for the faint hearted! ;)
So you don't recommend leaving it on, so they can test it under a load?
Or should they be able to determine that without applying a physical load?
It will be in their way when they go to disassemble it to get inside. If they truly have experience with SS motors, it will be a minimal inconvenience to them. However if not, . . .

Back up. Let's keep this simple. Take it in as is. Let them struggle with the extra parts.

I think you will quickly find out if 'ss motor experience' is indeed a fact. ;)

Okay. I get your point. I'll take it off myself. Doesn't look that hard.

Re: The usual noobie mistake -help please

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:36 pm
by ERLover
I found removing that spring with out a jig is a 2 person job, one to hold a board with a hole in it for the spring, and compressing it while the other undoing the clip or nut holding/retaining the spring.

Re: The usual noobie mistake -help please

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:43 pm
by JPG

Re: The usual noobie mistake -help please

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:01 pm
by ERLover
JPG wrote:Watch this at about 7 min in.

http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... rn_Pt2.htm
Thanks JPG that was where I learned it and wanted to pass it on, just did not remember where to go. A audio/video is is better then 10K words. Just that I had no inner tubes or cradle, and after my neighbor tried to ease off the board the spring and cup was bouncing all over the the garage!!! :eek:

Re: The usual noobie mistake -help please

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:14 pm
by JPG
He likely has the washer rather than the cup.

FWIW, with the cup I use my left hand to compress and right hand to maneuver the pliers. Total control mandatory! :rolleyes:

Re: The usual noobie mistake -help please

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:33 pm
by wa2crk
Even with the motor spring and sheave removed a good electric motor shop should be able to put the motor under load for a proper check. They can also check startup current and run current as well.
Bill V

Re: The usual noobie mistake -help please

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:43 pm
by ERLover
JPG wrote:He likely has the washer rather than the cup.

FWIW, with the cup I use my left hand to compress and right hand to maneuver the pliers. Total control mandatory! :rolleyes:
It was on a greenie, and if you can do both , as we all know here, your a better man!!! :D

Re: The usual noobie mistake -help please

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:02 am
by retiredsoldier919
JPG wrote:Watch this at about 7 min in.

http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... rn_Pt2.htm
Thanks JPG. I'll view that video and give it a try. I don't want to give a shop the chance to break a sheave.

I've got to get this thing fixed. I hate seeing her in my garage all ready to go other than a capable motor. I really wish I could get my old reliable 3/4HP AO Smith from my 10er in there. That thing is bullet proof.

Re: The usual noobie mistake -help please

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 4:50 pm
by retiredsoldier919
As stated on the other thread, it turned out to be bad windings in the motor. I bought a replacement from Bill Mayo, and all is well. Thank you Bill.