Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
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GetterDone
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Re: Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
Great job on the Shopsmith and the video.
I have some eastwood stuff like you used on the inside of the tubes.
It has been sitting for several years.
This is a good use for it thanks for the idea.
I have some eastwood stuff like you used on the inside of the tubes.
It has been sitting for several years.
This is a good use for it thanks for the idea.
Dwayne
1st Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V /Jan./1984
2nd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Mar./1984
3rd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Jan./1981
4th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) 50th anniversary
5th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) Dec. 1996
6th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark VII (1963 ???)
7th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V / Nov. 1984 (Double Quill Bearings)
8th Shopsmith Machine = SS Greenie / 1956
Shopsmith headstock only/ From Shopsmith/ June 1957
1st Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V /Jan./1984
2nd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Mar./1984
3rd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Jan./1981
4th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) 50th anniversary
5th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) Dec. 1996
6th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark VII (1963 ???)
7th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V / Nov. 1984 (Double Quill Bearings)
8th Shopsmith Machine = SS Greenie / 1956
Shopsmith headstock only/ From Shopsmith/ June 1957
Re: Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
Now for some fun stuff.
I was able to get some of the base parts primed.
And now some color.
So the next thing I will tackle are the castor assemblies.
I was able to get some of the base parts primed.
And now some color.
So the next thing I will tackle are the castor assemblies.
1954 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Greenie serial# 273446
1961 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Goldie serial# 369690
1980 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Grey Ghost serial# 53313
1955 Jointer serial# 32449
1957 Jigsaw serial# 70888
1983 Planer serial# 07879
1981 Bandsaw 505641 serial# 47391
1994 Jointer 555483 serial# 01-01-94
Belt Sander Serial# 25625
1961 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Goldie serial# 369690
1980 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Grey Ghost serial# 53313
1955 Jointer serial# 32449
1957 Jigsaw serial# 70888
1983 Planer serial# 07879
1981 Bandsaw 505641 serial# 47391
1994 Jointer 555483 serial# 01-01-94
Belt Sander Serial# 25625
Re: Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
This has been mentioned before in other posts. IF you remove the cams from the shafts, mark them precisely so they go back on in the exact same position. The holes for the roll pins are not precision drilled. They all vary slightly. If you don't put the cams back in the same place the roll pins will (might) not be able to be installed.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Re: Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
Thanks for the heads up, I did catch that in some of the other threads, but you explanation was very clear.jsburger wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:32 pm This has been mentioned before in other posts. IF you remove the cams from the shafts, mark them precisely so they go back on in the exact same position. The holes for the roll pins are not precision drilled. They all vary slightly. If you don't put the cams back in the same place the roll pins will (might) not be able to be installed.
1954 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Greenie serial# 273446
1961 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Goldie serial# 369690
1980 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Grey Ghost serial# 53313
1955 Jointer serial# 32449
1957 Jigsaw serial# 70888
1983 Planer serial# 07879
1981 Bandsaw 505641 serial# 47391
1994 Jointer 555483 serial# 01-01-94
Belt Sander Serial# 25625
1961 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Goldie serial# 369690
1980 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Grey Ghost serial# 53313
1955 Jointer serial# 32449
1957 Jigsaw serial# 70888
1983 Planer serial# 07879
1981 Bandsaw 505641 serial# 47391
1994 Jointer 555483 serial# 01-01-94
Belt Sander Serial# 25625
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Re: Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
The Base and Arm look to be in good shape after the pin removal. I don't recall ever seeing a used pin for sale separately from the Base and Arm Assembly. If you can't find one you could make your own with some rod stock of the correct diameter.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
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Re: Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
The connecting rods to end castings are also not precision drilled, so they also need to be identified prior to disassembly. I find a simply dimpling with a center punch will suffice. There are 4 connections on each caster assembly. One dimple on the end of the connecting rod and a single dimple on the casting for the first. The second can be two dimples. The third can be three dimples. The fourth can be zero dimples.AllenH wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:35 pmThanks for the heads up, I did catch that in some of the other threads, but you explanation was very clear.jsburger wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:32 pm This has been mentioned before in other posts. IF you remove the cams from the shafts, mark them precisely so they go back on in the exact same position. The holes for the roll pins are not precision drilled. They all vary slightly. If you don't put the cams back in the same place the roll pins will (might) not be able to be installed.
This assures the roll pins will fit into the rod and end casting holes correctly.
If the marking is not done, one can be chasing their tail trying to get things assembled as they were originally.
It should be obvious that each caster assembly set of parts needs to be separated from the parts from the other caster assembly.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Re: Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
Good tip. I have a set of number punches that I was going to use. The dimples would be easier to see.
1954 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Greenie serial# 273446
1961 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Goldie serial# 369690
1980 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Grey Ghost serial# 53313
1955 Jointer serial# 32449
1957 Jigsaw serial# 70888
1983 Planer serial# 07879
1981 Bandsaw 505641 serial# 47391
1994 Jointer 555483 serial# 01-01-94
Belt Sander Serial# 25625
1961 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Goldie serial# 369690
1980 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Grey Ghost serial# 53313
1955 Jointer serial# 32449
1957 Jigsaw serial# 70888
1983 Planer serial# 07879
1981 Bandsaw 505641 serial# 47391
1994 Jointer 555483 serial# 01-01-94
Belt Sander Serial# 25625
Re: Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
I was able to get quite a bit done this weekend.
First the castor assembly.
Here is a pic of the assembly just before I started to remove the roll pins. You can see the PO spray painted the assembly when he painted the legs. This side sort of functioned, but barely. The other side was pretty much frozen up.
This pic shows the parts all disassembled. I had used a dimple punch as suggested to mark all of the positions of the components.
I media blasted the ends and shafts. The ends where primed and painted with Rust-Oleum Hammered Copper and the shafts were polished by putting them in a drill and using scotch brite pads and 400 grit sand paper. I finished them off with some Mag Cleaner.
The lever mechanism was polished using the pads and Mag Cleaner also.
The Cams, Pistons and springs where mainly cleaned up the same way.
Every thing was them waxed with paste wax for lubrication and to prevent future rust.
Now I reassembled the shaft lever, shaft and cams. I used the dimples to make sure I got them back in the correct positions.
Before I put the pistons back in the end pieces, I used a brake hone on the end pieces to make sure the pistons moved smoothly. Caution must be used when doing this, you can scratch up you newly painted piece easily.
This is the final product. I think it came out quite well.
For comparison, here is the completed product next to the other side before I started on it.
First the castor assembly.
Here is a pic of the assembly just before I started to remove the roll pins. You can see the PO spray painted the assembly when he painted the legs. This side sort of functioned, but barely. The other side was pretty much frozen up.
This pic shows the parts all disassembled. I had used a dimple punch as suggested to mark all of the positions of the components.
I media blasted the ends and shafts. The ends where primed and painted with Rust-Oleum Hammered Copper and the shafts were polished by putting them in a drill and using scotch brite pads and 400 grit sand paper. I finished them off with some Mag Cleaner.
The lever mechanism was polished using the pads and Mag Cleaner also.
The Cams, Pistons and springs where mainly cleaned up the same way.
Every thing was them waxed with paste wax for lubrication and to prevent future rust.
Now I reassembled the shaft lever, shaft and cams. I used the dimples to make sure I got them back in the correct positions.
Before I put the pistons back in the end pieces, I used a brake hone on the end pieces to make sure the pistons moved smoothly. Caution must be used when doing this, you can scratch up you newly painted piece easily.
This is the final product. I think it came out quite well.
For comparison, here is the completed product next to the other side before I started on it.
1954 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Greenie serial# 273446
1961 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Goldie serial# 369690
1980 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Grey Ghost serial# 53313
1955 Jointer serial# 32449
1957 Jigsaw serial# 70888
1983 Planer serial# 07879
1981 Bandsaw 505641 serial# 47391
1994 Jointer 555483 serial# 01-01-94
Belt Sander Serial# 25625
1961 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Goldie serial# 369690
1980 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Grey Ghost serial# 53313
1955 Jointer serial# 32449
1957 Jigsaw serial# 70888
1983 Planer serial# 07879
1981 Bandsaw 505641 serial# 47391
1994 Jointer 555483 serial# 01-01-94
Belt Sander Serial# 25625
Re: Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
The base tubes did not go as well.
After priming the first tube, I started to paint it in the mini lathe jig. It made it easy to rotate it.
I got some grey Rust-Oleum paint. Shook it up for a couple of minutes and started painting. It spit out some black gunk at first. After some more shaking, it did start to spray out correctly, but the damage had been done. Also, I didn't like the color. I thought I needed more silver in it. So I let it try 24 hours, hooked up the drill to it again and sanded it down smooth again.
This time I got some Rust-Oleum Metallic Titanium Silver. Still not completely happy with it, the color is better, but I am not exited about the finish. At this point I think I am just going to live with it. Let me know what you guys think.
So next it is on to the leg panels. I will media blast them and we will see what the Rust=Oleum Hammered Gold looks like.
After priming the first tube, I started to paint it in the mini lathe jig. It made it easy to rotate it.
I got some grey Rust-Oleum paint. Shook it up for a couple of minutes and started painting. It spit out some black gunk at first. After some more shaking, it did start to spray out correctly, but the damage had been done. Also, I didn't like the color. I thought I needed more silver in it. So I let it try 24 hours, hooked up the drill to it again and sanded it down smooth again.
This time I got some Rust-Oleum Metallic Titanium Silver. Still not completely happy with it, the color is better, but I am not exited about the finish. At this point I think I am just going to live with it. Let me know what you guys think.
So next it is on to the leg panels. I will media blast them and we will see what the Rust=Oleum Hammered Gold looks like.
1954 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Greenie serial# 273446
1961 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Goldie serial# 369690
1980 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Grey Ghost serial# 53313
1955 Jointer serial# 32449
1957 Jigsaw serial# 70888
1983 Planer serial# 07879
1981 Bandsaw 505641 serial# 47391
1994 Jointer 555483 serial# 01-01-94
Belt Sander Serial# 25625
1961 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Goldie serial# 369690
1980 Shopsmith Mark 5 500 Grey Ghost serial# 53313
1955 Jointer serial# 32449
1957 Jigsaw serial# 70888
1983 Planer serial# 07879
1981 Bandsaw 505641 serial# 47391
1994 Jointer 555483 serial# 01-01-94
Belt Sander Serial# 25625
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GetterDone
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Re: Yet another "Goldie" Restoration
That is looking good.
I will use that trick on the wheel assemblies that JPG suggested also when I get to cleaning mine.
That tube looks good.IMO.
I will use that trick on the wheel assemblies that JPG suggested also when I get to cleaning mine.
That tube looks good.IMO.
Dwayne
1st Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V /Jan./1984
2nd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Mar./1984
3rd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Jan./1981
4th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) 50th anniversary
5th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) Dec. 1996
6th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark VII (1963 ???)
7th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V / Nov. 1984 (Double Quill Bearings)
8th Shopsmith Machine = SS Greenie / 1956
Shopsmith headstock only/ From Shopsmith/ June 1957
1st Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V /Jan./1984
2nd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Mar./1984
3rd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Jan./1981
4th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) 50th anniversary
5th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) Dec. 1996
6th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark VII (1963 ???)
7th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V / Nov. 1984 (Double Quill Bearings)
8th Shopsmith Machine = SS Greenie / 1956
Shopsmith headstock only/ From Shopsmith/ June 1957