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Dusty, [btw, pls excuse any typos-- writing this as I pack a lunch] billmayo, JPG, greitz, charlese:

Starting in about 5 minutes I am going to address every word in every one of those posts- with which I agree- until I will be able to say "nothing has been left to chance".

Credit where due Dept.: In new personal communication with SS (I put it that way so noone gets the wrong idea- please don't read between the lines, details irrelevant), SS wants to help, to a finality, and I am very optimistic.

I put it simply so as to not create any 'impressions', good, bad or indifferent.

Maybe best way I can frame this is to say "I, as in 'me' the action figure, should have made that additional phone call, long ago.
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Thanks for the feedback, byw. I had no idea about that 2.5mm screw for instance.
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keakap wrote:Dusty, [btw, pls excuse any typos-- writing this as I pack a lunch] billmayo, JPG, greitz, charlese:

Starting in about 5 minutes I am going to address every word in every one of those posts- with which I agree- until I will be able to say "nothing has been left to chance".

Credit where due Dept.: In new personal communication with SS (I put it that way so noone gets the wrong idea- please don't read between the lines, details irrelevant), SS wants to help, to a finality, and I am very optimistic.

I put it simply so as to not create any 'impressions', good, bad or indifferent.

Maybe best way I can frame this is to say "I, as in 'me' the action figure, should have made that additional phone call, long ago.
..........

Thanks for the feedback, byw. I had no idea about that 2.5mm screw for instance.
GREAT. That is good news.
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charlese wrote: I still use my favorite, "loose" coupler for belt sander and jointer. ...
"Loose" being a relative (some might say loose) term, how would you characterize the fit of a loose coupler in physical terms?
In looking at mine (and I am going to order another, regardless) I can't imagine calling it loose. I still struggle to get it connected, each time, because of the close fit, and I'm fastidious with the alignments. I doubt that it has had more than 2 or 3 lifetime operational hours to boot.

BUT- at the risk of seeming to use a gastrointestinal analogy- my 'regular' may be someone else's 'loose'.

Related: when you mount the jointer or BS, how do you connect, as in how much lateral force? "Just so"? Push the headstock until the connector is 'bottomed' out between the hubs? And then some? (on the BS, which still flaps in the breeze on those eccentric stems, not so much the solid jointer).

I only ask this last thing because despite having wondered since day one I've never asked before.
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keakap wrote:Dusty, [btw, pls excuse any typos-- writing this as I pack a lunch] billmayo, JPG, greitz, charlese:

Starting in about 5 minutes I am going to address every word in every one of those posts- with which I agree- until I will be able to say "nothing has been left to chance".

Credit where due Dept.: In new personal communication with SS (I put it that way so noone gets the wrong idea- please don't read between the lines, details irrelevant), SS wants to help, to a finality, and I am very optimistic.

I put it simply so as to not create any 'impressions', good, bad or indifferent.

Maybe best way I can frame this is to say "I, as in 'me' the action figure, should have made that additional phone call, long ago.
..........

Thanks for the feedback, byw. I had no idea about that 2.5mm screw for instance.

I think you got their attention!:)

There was never any doubt in my mind that they would and desire to resolve any problems you are/were having.

Although IIUC they dropped the ball(they are juggling multiple 'issues' I assume) this frustration could have been relieved by picking up that ball yourself.

I realize the funky taste probably remains from previous issues, but do not let that affect current judgement(both meanings meant).

Keep us 'posted'!;)
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keakap wrote:"Loose" being a relative (some might say loose) term, how would you characterize the fit of a loose coupler in physical terms?
In looking at mine (and I am going to order another, regardless) I can't imagine calling it loose. I still struggle to get it connected, each time, because of the close fit, and I'm fastidious with the alignments. I doubt that it has had more than 2 or 3 lifetime operational hours to boot.

BUT- at the risk of seeming to use a gastrointestinal analogy- my 'regular' may be someone else's 'loose'.

Related: when you mount the jointer or BS, how do you connect, as in how much lateral force? "Just so"? Push the headstock until the connector is 'bottomed' out between the hubs? And then some? (on the BS, which still flaps in the breeze on those eccentric stems, not so much the solid jointer).

I only ask this last thing because despite having wondered since day one I've never asked before.
Interesting comment. Especially in this context (where there is concern about loose setscrews in the drive line).
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keakap wrote:"Loose" being a relative (some might say loose) term, how would you characterize the fit of a loose coupler in physical terms?
In looking at mine (and I am going to order another, regardless) I can't imagine calling it loose. I still struggle to get it connected, each time, because of the close fit, and I'm fastidious with the alignments. I doubt that it has had more than 2 or 3 lifetime operational hours to boot.

BUT- at the risk of seeming to use a gastrointestinal analogy- my 'regular' may be someone else's 'loose'.

Related: when you mount the jointer or BS, how do you connect, as in how much lateral force? "Just so"? Push the headstock until the connector is 'bottomed' out between the hubs? And then some? (on the BS, which still flaps in the breeze on those eccentric stems, not so much the solid jointer).

I only ask this last thing because despite having wondered since day one I've never asked before.

I think 'loose' as it applies to the coupler, is rotational(backlash).

As far as 'how far', I think almost bottoming out is preferable. I insert the spt hub into the coupler first, then move the headstock hub into the spring end. The deeper it goes the more secure it is, but I would avoid 'all the way'.

Your description of your coupler does not bring looseness to my mind.
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My chosen word "loose" when applied to my favorite, very easily mounted plastic coupler is indeed a small amount of rotational play. That particular coupler is worn/stretched to where it fits sloppily on both hubs. That's why I like it best when I was using any SPT with the old variable clutch headstocks. So easy to mount. Rotational backlash is one way to describe the movement. Even with hard pressure to fully compress the coupler spring, it still has rotational play.

Concerning how hard to push into the coupler - I usually move the headstock into the coupler with enough force to fully compress the spring. I have noticed this makes the coupler stick onto the bandsaw coupler so it must be wiggled and pulled to remove it.

My new plastic couplers fit very tightly on all hubs.
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It would be dangerous to generally run without some kind of guard but just maybe someone with a PowerPro growling at their bandsaw might consider the possibility of a short test run with a screw type hose clamp snugly around each end of their coupler to eliminate any "looseness"???

Just one of those loose thoughts. :)

I wonder if one of those "improved" couplers on Ebay would make a difference?
Probably not, just wondering out loud...


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robinson46176 wrote:It would be dangerous to generally run without some kind of guard but just maybe someone with a PowerPro growling at their bandsaw might consider the possibility of a short test run with a screw type hose clamp snugly around each end of their coupler to eliminate any "looseness"???

Just one of those loose thoughts. :)

I wonder if one of those "improved" couplers on Ebay would make a difference?
Probably not, just wondering out loud...


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Wonder what a Lovejoy would do?:D
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Post by jcraigie »

If someone will just send me a powerpro I would be happy to test it with a lovejoy :D
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