Share your Magna memorabilia!

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The difference for the green envelope wheel, P/N 12-284, is grinding not cut-off. Now that being said it does look more like a cut-off wheel.

The other number differences come from November 1951 when all part numbers changed for the first time. The following explains the part numbers.

Part Numbers: 3 digit dash numbers and some with X (example 126-1X) were the first numbers used starting with Model 10E’s (some references left off the “X”). Part number 126-1X was the 5/8" Arbor which is made up of 6 parts. The X generally indicated an assembly rather than an individual part. The 2 digit space 3 digit numbers replaced the original numbers November 19, 1951 starting with 12 (example 12 031 the same 5/8" Arbor) with some of these numbers used into the 1960’s. Some complete assemblies for the Model 10ER after the part numbers change used a 3 digit space 3 digit part number for assemblies like 102 000 for the Headstock Assembly. Numbers starting with 22 (example 22 031 again the 5/8" Arbor but now with a locking washer) were introduced in the Fall of 1953 for the up-coming Mark 5, later the space was left out of these part numbers in some catalogs and 27000 numbers were added. 6 digit numbers (example 505506 which continues today as the 5/8" Molder Dado Arbor formally the Universal Arbor) were started by Magna American. The Feb. 64 catalog has the new 6 digit numbers with the old numbers in parenthesis. Other part numbers like AK-1003 have been used for items sold by Shopsmith Inc. from other suppliers and not made specifically for Shopsmith.
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Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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chapmanruss wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:17 pm The difference for the green envelope wheel, P/N 12-284, is grinding not cut-off.
If it were only that simple… While it may say “grinding wheel” on the outside:
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…it clearly says “cut-off wheel” on the inside!
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Regardless, where does P/N 12-284 appear in an accessories catalog??
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N R51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1957 Magna-Line Model 710 Bench Saw, S/N 34162 (restored)
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Was the green package unopened/sealed? If not that may not be the wheel that came in it.
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jsburger wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:56 pm Was the green package unopened/sealed? If not that may not be the wheel that came in it.
I’d say this is the wheel that came in the green envelope…
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N R51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1957 Magna-Line Model 710 Bench Saw, S/N 34162 (restored)
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Apparently the same wheel but for different uses. Funny they put a different label on the one side of the wheel with the Grinding Wheel part number but didn't bother to change the label on the other side to say Grinding.

I can find the Cut-off Wheel listed in accessories but not the Grinding Wheel.

Another thought, what non-metallics would you "grind" with this wheel that could not be better done with a sanding disk?
Russ

Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Concrete! Bricks.

Not wood though! :D
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Magna American Greenie SPTs??!

So, the conventional wisdom of the Magna American years is that they continued production of the Goldie Mark 5’s that they inherited from Yuba Power Products, changing the color scheme to all grey shortly before discontinuing the Mark 5 altogether around 1964. And although I’ve never acquired one myself, I have some vague recollection that I’ve seen some odd SPTs offered that were Magna American branded, but in the Greenie color scheme that had been discontinued well before Magna American existed.

Crazy, right? Must have been some badly faded Goldie paint, surface rust, or just bad lighting for a photo…

…or, maybe not, since as this document indicates, Magna American did in fact offer at least one limited run of a few of the SPTs in Greenie motif!

Anyone out there have one of these??

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John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N R51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1957 Magna-Line Model 710 Bench Saw, S/N 34162 (restored)
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Complete MAGNA-LINE Accessory Catalog

As I've become more interested in some of the non-Shopsmith tools produced during the Magna/Yuba/Magna American days, I've sought out more documentation on those. And while there have been a number of dealer price lists that have come into my collection that list the full gamut of the MAGNA-LINE tools, the accessory catalog sheets from the day all seemed to be limited to only the products found on the cover of the glossy MAGNA-LINE power tools brochure:
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Recently, I found a variation on the accessories list that expands that tool set significantly.
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On the left, the more common MAGNA-LINE price list and accessory catalog (March 1957 print date), and on the right, a follow up version with additional sheets and product coverage (September 1957 print date) - not sure why they opted to keep the pricing separate on this version.


This later version contains a description of the 10-in. Contractor Saw (I've never seen a physical example of this product):
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...the 12 1/2-in Drill Press (an example of which was recently featured on Scott Markwood's My Growth Rings video series):
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...the 30-in Wood Lathe (I'll be restoring one of these later this year), as well as the "Thrifty Three" line of low-cost MAGNA-LINE products - 4-in Belt Sander, 12 1/2-in Jigsaw, and 8-in Bench Saw:
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Great to finally have some details on these lesser-known Magna products!
John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N R51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1957 Magna-Line Model 710 Bench Saw, S/N 34162 (restored)
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Yikes John - By branching out to non-Shopsmith machines you've opened up a bunch of additional tools to collect! How big is your shop?
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Matanuska wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:57 pm How big is your shop?
Ha! Reminds me of the punchline of the story of the old man with the incredibly young and beautiful wife being asked, “How rich are you??!”

In my case, I just delivered a freshly restored Goldie to my oldest son, so I have plenty of room!!
John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N R51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1957 Magna-Line Model 710 Bench Saw, S/N 34162 (restored)
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