Wood Shavings Delemma
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I went to Woodcraft and bought a large dust chute that is about 6"x12" that connects to a 21/2" vac hose. I made a portable stand that I attached it to. It does a pretty good job and can be repositioned as needed. Not perfect but good. There are commercially available stands out there too. My goal is to add plywood sides to attach to the lower tubes of the Shopsmith.
Fred,
I have a couple of questions for you, and a bit off topic but, do you find that the UTR works enough better than the normal tool rest to warrant the price? I have recently started turning with my shopsmith and feel I am getting a lot of vibration, but the UTR seems like a lot of money to me. My shopmith is the old 500 model that I recently upgraded to PowerPro (love it). I built my own dust collector by building my own impeller out of plywood and a spare swimming pool pump motor with a 4" intake, and I swear no matter where you locate the hose when turnig, it is not the right spot. The other question I have is are you using any specific brands and sizes of bowl gouges and if so what are they?
I have a couple of questions for you, and a bit off topic but, do you find that the UTR works enough better than the normal tool rest to warrant the price? I have recently started turning with my shopsmith and feel I am getting a lot of vibration, but the UTR seems like a lot of money to me. My shopmith is the old 500 model that I recently upgraded to PowerPro (love it). I built my own dust collector by building my own impeller out of plywood and a spare swimming pool pump motor with a 4" intake, and I swear no matter where you locate the hose when turnig, it is not the right spot. The other question I have is are you using any specific brands and sizes of bowl gouges and if so what are they?
Neal
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Neal, If you don't have the lift assist as I do, the UTR will fit between the work and the tail center properly. It works much better than the normal tool in that it is much heavier which reduces vibration and can reach inside your work better if you turn deep bowls. But, if cost is an issue, I find the normal tool rest on my 10ER to work good enough for most of my turnings. It's kinda like the PP upgrade, you really don't need it but if you can afford it it's nice to have. As far as gouges, I use Easy Wood Carbide tools only. I like not having to stop and sharpen my tools all the time. I purchased about $50 worth of replacement cutters and have used only about half of them so far turning over 30 bowls. Shopsmith sells them as well as Woodcraft. Don't get the starter versions, they are too small. I discuss this quite a bit in my other thread, 'My First Attempt at Bowl Making ' in the Beginners Woodworkers section.neal560sl wrote:Fred,
I have a couple of questions for you, and a bit off topic but, do you find that the UTR works enough better than the normal tool rest to warrant the price? I have recently started turning with my shopsmith and feel I am getting a lot of vibration, but the UTR seems like a lot of money to me. My shopmith is the old 500 model that I recently upgraded to PowerPro (love it). I built my own dust collector by building my own impeller out of plywood and a spare swimming pool pump motor with a 4" intake, and I swear no matter where you locate the hose when turnig, it is not the right spot. The other question I have is are you using any specific brands and sizes of bowl gouges and if so what are they?
Fred
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The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
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Success
Adding the panel extensions solved my issue of chips flying over my original walls.
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99% of the chips and shavings were contained by the extensions I added to the panels.
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A few chips found their way through the gap between my panels. Otherwise there were no chips or shavings scattered all over the place as before. Clean up was much faster tonight.
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99% of the chips and shavings were contained by the extensions I added to the panels.
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A few chips found their way through the gap between my panels. Otherwise there were no chips or shavings scattered all over the place as before. Clean up was much faster tonight.
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Fred Sheldon
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
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And the panels previously only contained 1%?:eek:;)fredsheldon wrote:Adding the panel extensions solved my issue of chips flying over my original walls.
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99% of the chips and shavings were contained by the extensions I added to the panels.
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A few chips found their way through the gap between my panels. Otherwise there were no chips or shavings scattered all over the place as before. Clean up was much faster tonight.
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[quote="JPG40504"]And the panels previously only contained 1%?:eek:]
The small chips from the dry outer bark were flying up and over the original walls. Probably about 5% were flying all the way across my garage and landing on everything. After spending hours this past weekend cleaning up all my shelves I decided to do something about it. Now there are no chips flying anywhere other than against the new higher panels other than what is getting through the small spaces between the panels. Picky Picky
The small chips from the dry outer bark were flying up and over the original walls. Probably about 5% were flying all the way across my garage and landing on everything. After spending hours this past weekend cleaning up all my shelves I decided to do something about it. Now there are no chips flying anywhere other than against the new higher panels other than what is getting through the small spaces between the panels. Picky Picky

Fred Sheldon
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
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If not for picky, there would be no folly!:Dfredsheldon wrote:The small chips from the dry outer bark were flying up and over the original walls. Probably about 5% were flying all the way across my garage and landing on everything. After spending hours this past weekend cleaning up all my shelves I decided to do something about it. Now there are no chips flying anywhere other than against the new higher panels other than what is getting through the small spaces between the panels. Picky Picky
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I have even purchased a hood to collect wood chips, frankly I believe it was a waste of money. The best solution for me has been a standard broom and one of those aluminum monster sized dust pans. This combo picks up 90% of wood chips in a hurry/ Then I use the DC3300 to collect the rest. Jim
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This what I have found that works the best for me alsofjimp wrote:I have even purchased a hood to collect wood chips, frankly I believe it was a waste of money. The best solution for me has been a standard broom and one of those aluminum monster sized dust pans. This combo picks up 90% of wood chips in a hurry/ Then I use the DC3300 to collect the rest. Jim