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Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:23 pm
by fitzhugh
So what are the other eggs?

Let me qualify my suggestion to try electrolysis: I have little to compare it to. I used naval jelly a few times. It didn't seem to work well on some old planes last year. No idea why. Perhaps I didn't degrease them. I tried electrolysis for the shopsmiths and was rather surprised at how well it worked. Best of all... It is cheap! $3.50 or so for a big box of washing soda at ace hw, a tarp, some scrap wood and an old, "dumb" style car battery charger. Made a tub:
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Actually made wider tub and did legs, tubes from one ss, had to move it to back yard and made it narrow as seen. You can keep reusing the washing soda mix, just add water to replace any evaporation. And probably remove the snails. Somehow a couple ended up flotoolg.

I just tried the naval jelly again yesterday ADHD it worked great. I can't afford the large supply of chemical rust remover but I'll use a combination of the two: chemicals on batches of small parts so I don't have to bother finding a way to string then together or year separately, electrolysis for large posts or a few small parts.

I do need to address the rust on the tube interiors since electrolysis didn't touch it.

Catching up: I think we're a bit over two hours from Stockton. If you do make it to the bay area let me know... Always love to cook and bake so I'll host a shop visit a bit heavier on the calories than tools composited to most, as I'm going through and making ask the tools I can. SS was aquired to bandsaw wood for making planes, knowing it will get lots of other use. Only I am kinda obsessed now. That's what happens when a hand tool only type gets a ss

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 5:45 am
by rlkeeney
To clean the rust from inside a tube using electrolysis put a piece of steel down the center of the tube. Rebar should work nicely for this.

The lye and zinc method may work for this. I've cleaned heavy rust off cast iron using this method but not inside a tube.

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:39 am
by BuckeyeDennis
rbursek wrote:When I started with the pretty clean Greenie I was at HF after reading here about the de ruster, If I remember right it was 27$ a gallon minus any coupon, around 10$ a quart. To rich for my blood!!!!!
I was also lucky enough to get four quarts of Evaporust really cheap at the Lowes closeout. In hindsight, I should have scooped up the whole shelf full -- the stuff is great.

Even at full price, Evaporust is not as expensive as it seems, because you can use it over and over again. I'm still using my first quart, and it has derusted dozens of items. My other three quarts have been used only once or twice, when needed to submerge a large item.

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 8:38 pm
by "Wild Bad Bob"
Back to the original thread, heat wrench was the ticket, I got the shaft out the other day, the bushing/sleeve still in there, heat wrenched that today, after soaking some more, with the inverted socket with an 14" extension on it to tap it out, worked fine, I may get a new bushing/sleeve at redo time though, this late summer fall, goldie redo is on hold till late summer early fall. Will do all the bearings in it, belts, finish rub down, some derusting, I may puts with that over the summer, no hurry on it, I have 3 more!!! I may pick up one more depending on price, goodies and condition, there is a greenie here for 250$, just standard 5 stuff, and a rust bucket. PASS

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 9:54 pm
by BuckeyeDennis
rbursek wrote:Back to the original thread, heat wrench was the ticket, I got the shaft out the other day, the bushing/sleeve still in there, heat wrenched that today, after soaking some more, with the inverted socket with an 14" extension on it to tap it out, worked fine, I may get a new bushing/sleeve at redo time though, this late summer fall, goldie redo is on hold till late summer early fall. Will do all the bearings in it, belts, finish rub down, some derusting, I may puts with that over the summer, no hurry on it, I have 3 more!!! I may pick up one more depending on price, goodies and condition, there is a greenie here for 250$, just standard 5 stuff, and a rust bucket. PASS
You really had me going there with the "heat wrench" thing. I spent maybe 15 minutes Googling for the mythical tool.
I finally found the answer on the Urban Dictionary site. Which only stands to reason ... that's where I usually find the meaning of JPG's more esoteric acronyms. :rolleyes:

So here's one for you. What do you do when you need to install a bolt to a particular torque spec, but don't have a proper torque wrench handy?

You "spot-torque" it.

I.e. torque it until you see spots! :D

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 10:45 pm
by "Wild Bad Bob"
BD, I still cant understand most of JPG axerisiums, then on "community" someone had an issue with all. B4 my old computer dumped I had a list of them from my salt water Aquarium forum. Now with JPG I just "nod my head and say, yes I understand" LOL!!!!

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 11:38 pm
by "Wild Bad Bob"
BD, the heat wrench is some where between the BFH, on the more subtle side but usually the HW involves some if BFH also!!!

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 11:52 pm
by JPG
rbursek wrote:BD, I still cant understand most of JPG axerisiums, then on "community" someone had an issue with all. B4 my old computer dumped I had a list of them from my salt water Aquarium forum. Now with JPG I just "nod my head and say, yes I understand" LOL!!!!
WTH are they?(axerisiums):confused:

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 11:53 pm
by JPG
BD, your middle name is not Victor is it?:D

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:05 am
by BuckeyeDennis
JPG40504 wrote:BD, your middle name is not Victor is it?:D
Nope. And if it were?