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Majones1 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:44 pm And RFGuy, As for the pile of chips being excessive, it’s possible that I did have more than usual from the jointer.

But although I’m still a novice here, I don’t think the chips are excessive. That’s a small dustpan, and it’s not even full. But if there’s a problem,I would love to figure it out and fix it if I can; I certainly wouldn’t complain about having less cleanup.

Marc,

Yeah, I wasn't trying to give you a hard time or criticize. It looks like A LOT of dust & chips based on how those 2 tools work in my shop. With no dust collection on the jointer, that would make the most sense to me. My planer is Mark V mounted, but should perform similarly to your Pro Planer. Typically I get a very small amount of chips & shavings that usually end up on top of the board being planed and eventually fall off on the planer bed and some of them make it to the floor. Still I would have to plane hundreds of boards in my shop to get that much debris on the floor (for comparison). That is why I wanted to highlight in case you might need to double-check something on the dust collection chute, DC-3300, etc. I have a newer version of the Shopsmith jointer and with dust collection nothing visible ever escapes my jointer. By the way, your equipment is starting to look very good. Great job in breathing new life into this equipment.

Thanks RFGuy, I didn’t take any offense or feel criticized at all. I’m new to dust collection, as well as these tools, having been using my shopvac or nothing with my saws and router. When I cut rabbets into the 2x4s used as the frame around my workbench top I ended up with huge piles of chips, so this little dustpan full is like heaven.

But I am serious about figuring out if and where any problem is. So I will check it out. The DC-3300 has 3 ports on it, one has the 2 1/2” hose on it, one is plugged, but the third port is open; is that normal or should that be plugged.

Majones1 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:12 pm But I am serious about figuring out if and where any problem is. So I will check it out. The DC-3300 has 3 ports on it, one has the 2 1/2” hose on it, one is plugged, but the third port is open; is that normal or should that be plugged.

Having one port open can be an advantage in that it will draw in room air and help filter it through the DC-3300 acting like an air filter, but this will cut down on airflow on the port going to the tool. Unfortunately the DC-3300 is a rather anemic dust collector so you may want to close that 3rd port off to increase your airflow. Don't get me wrong, Shopsmith did a good job with the DC-3300 and it was very nice for the time that it came onto the market. However, since then there are much better (more airflow, HEPA filters, cyclones, less leaks, etc.) dust collection solutions available and for far cheaper. I still have my DC-3300 and it served me well for many, many years. I can't really afford to/don't want to upgrade to a $2k dust collector/cyclone solution for my shop yet, so I went a different route. I bought the largest ShopVac™ that I could find with both a HEPA cartridge filter and HEPA dust bags in it. I mated this to a ClearVue CV06 Mini cyclone (basically an upgraded version of a Dust Deputy). It is still a reasonably compact setup for my small shop (~200 sq ft). Using this setup, I was able to measure better airflow than my DC-3300 so I switched to using the ShopVac™. It works well for me and with the HEPA filters (plural), I have very little dust get into the air in my shop for functions like planing and jointing with my Mark V. Tablesaw and sanding still produce quite a bit of dust that escapes though. FYI...I monitor the air quality (dust) in my shop with a laser particle counter, so I know what the particle counts are when I am in the shop. Helps for knowing when I can breathe without a respirator and when I should put one on.

You'll lose about a third of your airflow with one extra port open. I did some measurements on my DC-3300 with 1, 2 & 3 ports open and you can find the results on this thread: viewtopic.php?p=285543#p285543

If you ever get bored, there is a mountain of information on dust collection that Bill Pentz put together (http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclon ... #index.php). He also designed the cyclones that ClearVue (https://www.clearvuecyclones.com/) sells.

ClearVue Mini-Cyclone:
https://www.clearvuecyclones.com/home/1 ... ystem.html

Hey Mark, that’s a BEAUTIFUL job you did on the jointer restoration. Most of the greenies I see are tired old machines on Craigslist. But looking at yours, I can almost feel the pride that the original owners must have felt. And a good restoration is an even better feeling. Because you didn’t just buy it, you DID it!

I think Dennis said it very well, you DID it! I enjoy restoring Shopsmith tools as much as using them. It has left me with quite a collection and one Jointer I now regret selling after I restored it. It has the lowest serial number I have seen for a Model 620 Jointer although I don't really need three Jointers. Use caution as collecting Shopsmith tools can be habit forming.

As for dust collection I believe you will see improvement if you do not leave an extra port open while collecting dust from an operating tool like your Jointer. If you feel there is still to much not being collected you may want to check the impeller which is one of the seventeen most commonly ordered repair parts. Excessive wear and/or damage to it will reduce efficiency.

Another jointer rescue! I acquired this model 620 the other day and I'm in the process of cleaning it up. The outstanding job that Marc Jones did with his jointer based on the expert advice he received from the contributors to this forum gave me the inspiration to attempt this restoration. The serial number on this jointer is #15554. My plan is to clean and tune it up using the tips and suggestions on this thread. Marc and I are in San Diego and I had the pleasure today of meeting Marc, a fellow Navy veteran. I've learned a lot from his restoration process and from all of you. Thank you all for your willingness to share your knowledge and experiences with Newbies like myself.
Tony

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wiWWe ... authuser=0

Although well intentioned, the google link is worthless unless we all have your credentials.

Post a pix.

theinrichs,

Do post a picture of your Jointer instead of using a link that may not be accessible. It will make it easier if you need help. The serial number 15554 for a Model 620 Greenie Jointer shows it was made in April 1954.

Ooops! I thought that might happen. I went back and reviewed Marc’s thread on posting pictures. Hope it works this time. JPG and Russ thank you for your comments.

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