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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:13 pm
by tom_k/mo
foxtrapper wrote:"...deliver 1-1/2 times to over 2-1/2 times the horsepower and torque...a much broader speed range..."

Hmmm. Wonder how well this will play out with the accessory tools and such. Yes, I saw where he said it was 100% compatable with everything. But when you increase speeds and power, you make breakage much more likely.

It sounds very interesting, but when it hits the market, I'll be curious to see how things settle out a few years later.
I would think that it would still be up to the operator to make sure that you didn't have the speed set at too high of a setting for the SPT being driven. I'm sure there are instances today where a SPT could be damaged by too high of a speed with the current headstock. One thing that DOES interest me about the quote though...
...a much broader speed range...
I wonder if this would eliminate the need for a speed reducer when turning large diameter objects and a speed increaser to allow better routing capabilities with the SS only?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:17 pm
by nuhobby
tom_k/mo wrote: I wonder if this would eliminate the need for a speed reducer when turning large diameter objects and a speed increaser to allow better routing capabilities with the SS only?
The exact same question is on my mind, since I currently have a Speed Reducer on order.
I just looked at some hobbyist's web-page and for instance he had a DC motor on his machine-lathe running about a 200 - 10500 rpm range measured after his pulley system (fixed pulley, I believe).
I don't know a lot of motor theory. Perhaps the claim for greater PowerPro torque over all the usual MarkV speed-range would help indicate whether they chose to enhance the lower speed range or the higher speed range. All other things being equal, the current Speed Reducer will be a torque-multiplier, and beating the torque output of a MarkV+Speed Reducer may be a taller trick than beating the torque output of a MarkV+Speed Increaser. So maybe they've aimed for the higher speeds, but this is all speculation. I'll keep my order active for the Speed Reducer until I hear the last word on this....

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:06 pm
by JPG
Assuming the speed range DOES include slower speeds, the speed reducer will be an even more usable accessory. The combination will result in lower than 100 rpm speeds.:)

It will be interesting to see if any comparison data will be forthcoming so we may compare as well as to 'know' the capabilities of the current head stock!

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:12 pm
by fjimp
I may be older than some but I like improving my skills and equipment. I loved the idea of suggesting the wife increase her budget for a birthday gift. Then it hit me my wife depends on me for her income, I guess I best make room in my budget. I began talking about the value I perceive in the new headstock. the next day my bride began explaining the value she sees in a new Bernina $12,000 quilting machine. I will really need to tread lightly here. fjimp

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:17 pm
by JPG
fjimp wrote:I may be older than some but I like improving my skills and equipment. I loved the idea of suggesting the wife increase her budget for a birthday gift. Then it hit me my wife depends on me for her income, I guess I best make room in my budget. I began talking about the value I perceive in the new headstock. the next day my bride began explaining the value she sees in a new Bernina $12,000 quilting machine. I will really need to tread lightly here. fjimp
NOWAY she can say your shopsmith 'stuff' is expensive!;) Looks like apples and oranges to me! Pot and kettle maybe!

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:28 pm
by fjimp
[quote="JPG40504"]NOWAY she can say your shopsmith 'stuff' is expensive!]

Yeah and guess who controls the apples and oranges as well as both the pot and the kettle?

Don't get me wrong I love my wife dearly and she is always very reasonable. Sometimes she uses those examples to be certain I think things thru carefully. Then again when I return home from my annual trip to Alaska, I am always greeted by an expensive gift I have bought for her without being aware I had taken my plastic out of my wallet. Gosh I wish I hadn't thought about that. This could be the second time I come home to a new sewing machine. You know I just may have to quit going fishing in Ketchikan. fjimp:eek:

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:43 pm
by JPG
fjimp wrote:. . .

Sometimes she uses those examples to be certain I think things thru carefully. . .
That had occurred to me! I did not really think she considered 12k to be 'equal time'!;)


BTW At least she was still there when you returned!:D

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:36 pm
by fjimp
JPG40504 wrote:

BTW At least she was still there when you returned!:D
I am truly thankful she is always there. We have reached that age where we depend on each other rather often. Thursday of this past week. She fell from a ladder. Not far and she wasn't injured. She did do some damage to a closet door. That was easily taken care of. Yet pointed out to both of us that we need to depend on each other for safety. Tis truly special to have a lover who is a full partner in all of life. I thank God daily for being blessed by such a marvelous bride. Fjimp

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:24 pm
by robinson46176
Now see, this thread is showing my brilliance in buying Shopsmiths on Ebay from all over the eastern half of the US... I don''t consider her a Shopsmith lover at all but I know her weakness, She can't pass up a "ROAD TRIP!!!". :D :D :D
If I was buying one from just down the road she might object. :)

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:12 pm
by a1gutterman
Bruce wrote:Perhaps more important than the price is its country of origin. If it says Made in USA, I'll be happy to pay more for it. Hopefully Shopsmith has been reading the threads on this site and know that most of us value the Made in USA stamp.
I agree with Bruce. I will definitely consider upgrading if it is US made. If it, as a whole, or a significant portion of it, is Made In China, I definitely WILL KNOT consider "up-grading". I will knot see that as an up-grade. I see it more as treason. My feelings of other countries of origin will vary depending on which ones.