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curiousgeorge wrote:Hey, Mike! Nice haul on the router. I just hope it is worth what you paid.

Ed & Ed,
I'm sure that, in your exuberance to discuss (argue?) your individual points/beliefs about routers, you don't realize that you have completely ignored the guy who started this thread and have totally hijacked it. Shame on you!

That's ok George....anything that even keeps these two guys talking to each other is a blessing!!!:D Plus, their posts do have the word router peppered throughout and I personally am enjoying the "debate".

curiousgeorge wrote:Hey, Mike! Nice haul on the router. I just hope it is worth what you paid.

Ed & Ed,
I'm sure that, in your exuberance to discuss (argue?) your individual points/beliefs about routers, you don't realize that you have completely ignored the guy who started this thread and have totally hijacked it. Shame on you!

curiousgeorge
I don't think we ignored the question at all. He asked what should he be looking for in routers. A few people suggestted multiple bases I disagree I think there are more important issues.

The discussion Ed and I are having is whether multiple bases are really the cost savings as we would expect them to be or have the manufactures learned they can make more profit by offering something that costs them little at nearly the price of two separate routers.

We were also discussing the pluses and minuses of fix base routers compared to plunge base.

Again I see both of these discussion well within the frame work of the question presented. If I'm wrong please tell me what you think is important to consider when purchasing your first router.

My wife and I each had our own descriptive terms for the Craftsman router I once owned. She called it "A Blue Air Creation Device" I called it a "PITA."

We have both enjoyed my pair of PC 893's Jim

a1gutterman wrote:Hi Ed,

Who is doing this insisting? I do know that I already have the routers that I will probably have for a very long time. They are Craftsman (knot my favorite), and Porter Cable (these I am very happy with). I like my fixed bases, but if I ever do buy an additional router, you can bet it will be a plunge router!

Tim
I often hear it on forums (this and others) and read it in magazine reviews you must buy multi base router packages. In fact that was the initial advice given to the person that asked the question.

I'm asking why? If you analyze the package price you see the manufacture actually double the fixed base cost that they include it in the package. Price out a fixed base router and a plunge base router and if you can just the purchase price of the router motor. Your eyes will be quickly opened to what is being done.

That and the fact I have found that with careful shopping I can purchase two high quality plunge base router ( and also fixed base if I had desired) for nearly the same price of most kits on the market.

Even Ed mentioned he got a rather high quality Hitachi for under $60. Buy two you have two bases, two motors for about half the suggestted retail of a Dewalt 618PK kit.

Obviously you figured this out already since you bought separate complete routers and I applaud you. What I was trying to do was answer the MickyD's question what should he look for in a router.

mickyd wrote:If you want to visually inspect router more closely, go here and here. Maximize the window and click on the image to enlarge it.

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I understand the clamp, my ?? was how is it raised/lowered(push/pull by hand?).

JPG40504 wrote:I understand the clamp, my ?? was how is it raised/lowered(push/pull by hand?).

Yes, by hand. There is no feature to raise of lower the body in the base other than the 2 hands God gave me.

Ed in Tampa wrote:curiousgeorge
I don't think we ignored the question at all. He asked what should he be looking for in routers. A few people suggestted multiple bases I disagree I think there are more important issues.

The discussion Ed and I are having is whether multiple bases are really the cost savings as we would expect them to be or have the manufactures learned they can make more profit by offering something that costs them little at nearly the price of two separate routers.

We were also discussing the pluses and minuses of fix base routers compared to plunge base.

Again I see both of these discussion well within the frame work of the question presented. If I'm wrong please tell me what you think is important to consider when purchasing your first router.

I was not referring to you ignoring the question. It was the fact that you totally ignored his post that he had found a router and kept right on arguing. But, as Mike said, I guess it really doesn't matter as long as he is happy.

curiousgeorge wrote:I was not referring to you ignoring the question. It was the fact that you totally ignored his post that he had found a router and kept right on arguing. But, as Mike said, I guess it really doesn't matter as long as he is happy.

As I said, they are probably just too green with envy and jealous and just can't find the words to explain how they feel about my once in a lifetime find.....

curiousgeorge wrote:I was not referring to you ignoring the question. It was the fact that you totally ignored his post that he had found a router and kept right on arguing. But, as Mike said, I guess it really doesn't matter as long as he is happy.

He (Mike) purchased a 'temporary' one. Methinks additional input for when he gets a 'permanent' one is helpful.

I consider Ed vs Ed to be a civil discussion, Not an argument.

IMHO 'We' should not stop from adding to any discussion just because an 'initial' question is answered/no longer a mystery. As has been pointed out, some threads take on a life of their own and IMHO that ain't bad!

JPG40504 wrote:He (Mike) purchased a 'temporary' one. Methinks additional input for when he gets a 'permanent' one is helpful.

I consider Ed vs Ed to be a civil discussion, Not an argument.

IMHO 'We' should not stop from adding to any discussion just because an 'initial' question is answered/no longer a mystery. As has been pointed out, some threads take on a life of their own and IMHO that ain't bad!

Everybodies missing the picture.....ooyy!

And yes, I am still very interested in more dialog for when I get my REAL router.