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I once installed a new set of cabinets in an old house and the floor was out by over 5 inches from one side of the room (about 14'wide) to the other. I first shimmed and set them level with the intention to run a piece of base board to cover the difference. After stepping back and looking at it they looked awful. The whole room was built that way so it looked like my cabinets ran up hill. I went back and just ran them with the floor and everything looked fine. Of course if you spilled a glass of water it would show up.:D
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mbcabinetmaker wrote:I once installed a new set of cabinets in an old house and the floor was out by over 5 inches from one side of the room (about 14'wide) to the other. I first shimmed and set them level with the intention to run a piece of base board to cover the difference. After stepping back and looking at it they looked awful. The whole room was built that way so it looked like my cabinets ran up hill. I went back and just ran them with the floor and everything looked fine. Of course if you spilled a glass of water it would show up.:D
So you're the guy that did that. Sorry I'm kidding. I once, many decades ago lived in a rent house in south Texas that had a kitchen like that. It was always good for a few laughs. Especially when someone had enjoyed a few too many beverages. Jim
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That fresh cut wood strip I put in shows up pretty light but since I took that picture it has darkened quite a bit. I thought I would wait until spring then give it a coat of orange shellac to see if it will darken some more. Actually I have another set of low bookshelves sitting in front of the right end now so you don't really see much of the right half of that strip.


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Now Jim that is just funny. The lady that I did that job for was from Texas. A widow in her late 70's. She was so pleased with her new cabinets she pulled out some of her personal stock homemade hooch from her home state. After a couple of those I had to call my wife to come pick me up.:o Literally!:D
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fjimp wrote:So you're the guy that did that. Sorry I'm kidding. I once, many decades ago lived in a rent house in south Texas that had a kitchen like that. It was always good for a few laughs. Especially when someone had enjoyed a few too many beverages. Jim


Now Jim that is just funny. The lady that I did that job for was from Texas. A widow in her late 70's. She was so pleased with her new cabinets she pulled out some of her personal stock homemade hooch from her home state. After a couple of those I had to call my wife to come pick me up.:o Literally!:D
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mbcabinetmaker wrote:Now Jim that is just funny. The lady that I did that job for was from Texas. A widow in her late 70's. She was so pleased with her new cabinets she pulled out some of her personal stock homemade hooch from her home state. After a couple of those I had to call my wife to come pick me up.:o Literally!:D
Now THAT is funny!:D
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JPG40504 wrote:Now THAT is funny!:D
Actually that stuff is dangerous. People have died simply from a single sip of that concoction. Yes in my youth I tasted the Texas version. Later in life I thought seriously about trying the Virginia version. The friend who offered it turned rather green and nearly passed out. I passed on it all together. That said I do not tolerate alcohol well. Jim
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JPG40504 wrote:OK! I rephrase the ? What device are you putting large pieces of paper into that makes those marks thereon?:rolleyes:
I have a very good client who also happens to be a good friend of mine who has a Hewlett Packard Scanjet Plotter that is 48" wide and I have been waiting for a chance to print out some full size templates for something. Just not sure what interface I would use to display and print them from the laptop? I wonder if Sketchup can print them out life size on a huge plotter? I may have to test this out and let you know how it goes. I have full access to the plotter whenever I want the only problem is his office is 30 mi. from home so I would have to probably plan to stop by when I have some work to do up that way unless I have something really important to print. Although now that I think of it I could install Sketchup on one of the machines in the office and access remotely, print out what I need then have Vic shoot them off in the mail to me saving me a trip. But if they print out weird I won't know until I receive them so being there is really kind of a must.

MB I don't know what to say but you have skilz that I can only dream about. I so much want to be able to make some cabinets and stuff like that in the worst way. I first have to get some heat into my garage. Then I have all winter to do the Frankenstein in the laboratory thing which I just love doing having heat will make that so much more enjoyable. I did just order a book that I got an email about from Woodsmith magazine that is all about making Bookcases, Cabinets & Shelves which I really have no experience doing and with the cost of materials it isn't something you really want to learn by doing if you get my drift. The other thing is the hinges and slides that part of it just boggles my mind???

I have been re-reading the post again as it is fascinating watching the thing come together. Though being a completely inexperienced noob I have a few questions. On the carcass with the bifold? doors I see pocket holes on two sides of the frame but nowhere else how do you fasten the rest of that frame together? There are no dadoes used in this particular construction technique? If so what is providing the strength to the frame? On the drawers that slide out I think I see mitered corners? If so how is that drawer constructed? Could you have also screwed through the OSB into the the opposite surface to fasten knowing that you would be covering it up with Formica or that isn't possible because you cover first due to the ease of covering before constructing? Sorry for all the questions MB I hope you don't mind answering rookie questions but I really am quite fascinated and yearn for more knowledge thanks again for your generous sharing of your expertise.
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wannabewoodworker wrote:
I have been re-reading the post again as it is fascinating watching the thing come together. Though being a completely inexperienced noob I have a few questions. On the carcass with the bifold? doors I see pocket holes on two sides of the frame but nowhere else how do you fasten the rest of that frame together? There are no dadoes used in this particular construction technique? If so what is providing the strength to the frame? On the drawers that slide out I think I see mitered corners? If so how is that drawer constructed? Could you have also screwed through the OSB into the the opposite surface to fasten knowing that you would be covering it up with Formica or that isn't possible because you cover first due to the ease of covering before constructing? Sorry for all the questions MB I hope you don't mind answering rookie questions but I really am quite fascinated and yearn for more knowledge thanks again for your generous sharing of your expertise.






In the old days I would have tacked nailed and screwed the cabinets together and then laminated the finished ends. There is always the chance of either blowing out the melamine. Then along comes Festool with a new idea.
All of these cabinets are joined with a combination of Festool domino's and pocket screws. The two work great together and solve each others shortcomings. I cover all the finished ends before assembly. The drawers are built the same way and the fronts of the pullout drawers are laminated to cover the pocket screws and raw edges. I believe the area that you do not see pocket screws is on the actual backs of the corner cabinets. Those are screwed through the face of the melamine and also have some pocket screws. I will post a picture of that later.
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Old style of tack nailing, predrilling and screwing through the face of the melamine.
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